Force on a sphere due to a conducting plate

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The discussion revolves around calculating the force on a sphere due to a conducting plate, specifically focusing on the electric field generated by an image charge. The subject area includes electrostatics and the application of Gauss's Law in scenarios involving spherical symmetry.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the use of the image charge method and Gauss's Law to determine the electric field and force between the spheres. Questions arise regarding the applicability of Coulomb's law in the context of uniformly charged spheres and the implications of spherical symmetry on the calculations.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being considered, including the image charge method and Gauss's Law. Participants are questioning the assumptions related to uniform charge distribution and the treatment of the spheres as point charges in certain regions.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the integration of potential and the limitations of applying Coulomb's law to uniformly charged spheres, suggesting a need for clarification on these concepts.

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Homework Statement
A sphere of radius R is situated a distance d away from an infinite, grounded conducting sheet. (d is the distance from the center to the plate, and d>R.) If the sphere has a uniform charge density p, calculate the force on the sphere.
Relevant Equations
F=Integral(E dV) over the volume of the sphere
I tried to find the the Electric field due to the image charge. So the potential due to the image charge is V=-(pR^2)/√(4R^2-4rRcos(θ)+r^2). When I took the gradient of that in spherical coordinates, I got a mess that doesn't seem to be possible to integrate.
 
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Can't you use Gauss's Law?
 
kuruman said:
Can't you use Gauss's Law?
I believe that Gauss's law would be another way to find that electric field due to the image charge (well technically the conducting plate), but the problem is still that it seems to come to an integral that doesn't seem doable.
 
If the "real" sphere has radius ##R## and uniform charge distribution ##\rho##, the image sphere will also have radius ##R## and uniform charge distribution ##-\rho##. Why can you not use Gauss's Law to find the electric field in this spherically symmetric case? In fact you don't even need the electric field or the potential. Just ask yourself the question, what is the force of attraction between two spheres of uniform density ##\rho## and ##-\rho## and radius ##R## with center-to-center separation ##2d##? The electric potential in the region of the real sphere is the same as the electric potential if the plane is replaced by the image sphere in which case the force on the real sphere will be the same. That's the beauty of the image charge approach.
 
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At first, I thought I could just use Coulomb's law to find the force of attraction between the spheres. But then I was told that since the sphere has a uniform charge density, it isn't the same as Coulomb's law between two point charges with the same charge as the spheres. Hence, I tried using the gradient of the potential from the image sphere.
 
SingDingLing said:
I was told that since the sphere has a uniform charge density, it isn't the same as Coulomb's law between two point charges with the same charge as the spheres.
Isn't the spherically symmetric charge case the one situation in which you can treat the sphere as a point charge (for regions outside the sphere)?
 

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