Force on Particle due to Sphere with Cylindrical Hole

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a homogeneous sphere with a cylindrical hole, where the force exerted by the sphere on a test particle is governed by an inverse square law. The original poster attempts to determine the force felt by the test particle positioned along the axis of the cylindrical hole, considering various approaches to integrate the effects of the sphere and the hole.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss constructing the sphere using cylindrical shells and integrating over the geometry of the hole. Some express uncertainty about the validity of using superposition for forces obeying the inverse square law and question the implications of this principle in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different methods of integration and expressing concerns about the complexity of the calculations involved. Some participants suggest alternative approaches, such as using superposition, while others are hesitant due to previous difficulties encountered with similar methods.

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There are mentions of potential complications arising from the geometry of the sphere and the cylindrical hole, as well as the need for careful consideration of the integration limits and methods used to account for the material removed from the sphere.

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Homework Statement



Consider a homogeneous sphere of radius R_s made of a material that exerts a force obeying the inverse r-squared law (i.e. a particle of this material exerts a force on a test particle \vec{F}=\frac{K}{r^2}\hat{r}, where the vector r points from the particle to the test particle and K is a real number such that positive values are repulsive and negative values attractive). Next, consider a cylindrical hole of radius R_d that is removed from the sphere such that the axis of the cylinder passes through the center of the sphere. The hole passes completely through the sphere. Finally, consider a test particle arbitrarily placed on the axis of the cylinder a distance R from the center of the sphere. Determine the force felt by the test particle due to this configuration.

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Due to the cylindrical hole, I decided to construct the sphere by integrating cylindrical shells. I defined the x-axis to be the axis of the cylinder and the y-axis to be orthogonal to the x-axis. Considering two particles equidistant from the test particle and the x-axis, I found the force on the test particle to be \vec{F} = \frac{2 K r_{x}}{r^3}\hat{x}, with r=\sqrt{r_{x}^2+r_{y}^2} and r_x and r_y being the x- and y-components of the distance from the particles to the test particle, respectively.

Next, I revolved this about the x-axis to produce a ring of material of radius r_y. Now, \vec{F}=\frac{2 K r_{x}}{r^3}\hat{x} \pi r_{y} n, where n is a number density term. I then note that the distance from the center of the sphere to the center of the ring is r_{d}=\sqrt{R_{s}^2+r_{y}^2} and that r_x = R - r_d. I can then rewrite the force caused by the ring as \vec{F}=\frac{2 \pi K n (R-r_{d})\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2}}{(R^2+R_{s}^2-2 r_{d} R)^{3/2}}\hat{x}.

Next, I integrate over the length of a cylinder such that rings at the ends coincide with the surface of the sphere. Noting that r_d is the distance from the center of the sphere to a ring, I can show that the length of a cylinder of a given radius will be 2*r_d. The force is now \vec{F}=\int_{-r_{d}}^{r_{d}}\frac{2 \pi K n (R-r_{d}\prime)\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2}}{(R^2+R_{s}^2-2 r_{d}\prime R)^{3/2}}\hat{x}dr_{d}\prime, noting that the r_d in \sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2} should not be primed as this represents the radius and is constant for a given cylinder. Also, n is adjusted accordingly. Putting this into MATLAB, I get the solution \vec{F}=2 \pi K n \hat{x} \frac{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2}}{R^2}(\frac{r_{d} R-R_{s}^2}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2-2 r_{d} R}}+\frac{r_{d} R+R_{s}^2}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2+2 r_{d} R}}).

Finally, I integrate over all cylinders in the sphere by integrating the cylinder half-length r_d from 0 to \sqrt{R_{s}^2-R_{d}^2}. This results in the following equation:
\vec{F}=2 \pi K n \hat{x} R^{-2}(R \int_{0}^{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-R_{d}^2}} \frac{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2} r_{d} dr_{d}}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2-2 r_{d} R}} - R_{s}^2 \int_{0}^{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-R_{d}^2}} \frac{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2} dr_{d}}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2-2 r_{d} R}} + R \int_{0}^{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-R_{d}^2}} \frac{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2} r_{d} dr_{d}}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2+2 r_{d} R}} + R_{s}^2 \int_{0}^{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-R_{d}^2}} \frac{\sqrt{R_{s}^2-r_{d}^2} dr_{d}}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2+2 r_{d} R}}).

To simplify this equation, I multiply the integrands by \sqrt{\frac{1/2R}{1/2R}}, and then let r_d = x, R_s = a, and (R^2+R_s^2)/2R = b. I then find that the integrals are of the following forms:
<br /> 1. \int_{A}^{B} \frac{\sqrt{a^2-x^2} x dx}{\sqrt{b-x}} \ \ \<br /> 2. \int_{A}^{B} \frac{\sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx}{\sqrt{b-x}} \ \ \<br /> 3. \int_{A}^{B} \frac{\sqrt{a^2-x^2} x dx}{\sqrt{b+x}} \ \ \<br /> 4. \int_{A}^{B} \frac{\sqrt{a^2-x^2} dx}{\sqrt{b+x}} \ \ \<br />

I have not found any solutions to these integrals either by using MATLAB or by looking up integral tables. Nor can I see any other way of constructing the sphere that would properly account for the hole without further complicating the problem. Any advice on how I might move forward would be appreciated.
 
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Leyic said:
Due to the cylindrical hole, I decided to construct the sphere by integrating cylindrical shells. I defined the x-axis to be the axis of the cylinder and the y-axis to be orthogonal to the x-axis. Considering two particles equidistant from the test particle and the x-axis, I found the force on the test particle to be \vec{F} = \frac{2 K r_{x}}{r^3}\hat{x}, with r=\sqrt{r_{x}^2+r_{y}^2} and r_x and r_y being the x- and y-components of the distance from the particles to the test particle, respectively.

Next, I revolved this about the x-axis to produce a ring of material of radius r_y. Now, \vec{F}=\frac{2 K r_{x}}{r^3}\hat{x} \pi r_{y} n, where n is a number density term.

Yikes!

There is a much easier way to approach this problem. Any force that obeys an inverse square law, also obeys the superposition principle. That means that is you add the forces due to a solid charged sphere of number density n and a cylinder of number density -n that lies inside the sphere exactly like the hole you had before, you get the same thing as the force due to the sphere with a hole in it.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Any force that obeys an inverse square law, also obeys the superposition principle.
I don't think that is true. Can you explain?
 
gabbagabbahey said:
There is a much easier way to approach this problem. Any force that obeys an inverse square law, also obeys the superposition principle. That means that is you add the forces due to a solid charged sphere of number density n and a cylinder of number density -n that lies inside the sphere exactly like the hole you had before, you get the same thing as the force due to the sphere with a hole in it.

Assuming superposition works*, the cylinder would need spherical end caps to properly coincide with the sphere, otherwise there would be "left over" material and I would find an approximate solution. I suppose I could construct the cylinder in a piecewise manner using integration by disks, remembering to vary the radius of the disks appropriately for the end caps. However, on an earlier attempt at this problem I had tried to construct the complete sphere and hole using integration by disks and found the final integration to be more troublesome than what I found integrating over cylindrical shells, so I'm somewhat reluctant to try integration by disks again. Nevertheless, I'll make the attempt and update accordingly.

*Superposition should work since two particles at the same location and with equal but opposite charges should cancel each other out. The inverse r-squared law shouldn't even have anything to do with it. The downside is I would have to form the sphere and the cylinder separately, meaning there would be more integrals to solve.

Update: I've taken the earlier stated equation for a ring and integrated over radius to create a disk, which I then integrated over the diameter of the sphere to create the solid sphere. Specifically, I find the force on a particle due to a solid sphere is
<br /> \vec{F}=\int_{-R_{s}}^{R_{s}}2 \pi K n \hat{x} (1-\frac{R-r_{d}}{\sqrt{R^2+R_{s}^2-2 r_{d} R}}) dr_{d} = \frac{-2 \pi K n \hat{x}}{3 R^2}(2 R^3-3 R_{s} R^2-R_{s}^3-(2 R^3-3 R_{s} R^2+R_{s}^3)csgn(R-R_{s}))<br />
where csgn is the complex sign function. Hopefully the integration over the cylinder won't present any extra difficulties.
 
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