Force/Projectile Motion Problem

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The problem involves a scenario where Sam, weighing 75 kg, uses jet-powered skis to ascend a frictionless slope that is 50 meters high at a 10-degree angle. The thrust provided by the skis is 200 N, and the question seeks to determine how far Sam lands from the base of the cliff after becoming airborne.

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  • Participants discuss the clarity of the problem statement, particularly regarding the dimensions of the ramp and its relation to the cliff. There are attempts to calculate the acceleration along the slope, with one participant providing a specific value of 2.63 m/s² based on the thrust and gravitational forces. Others suggest separating the analysis of the ramp and the airborne phases of Sam's motion.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made about the ramp's dimensions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to analyze the motion while on the ramp and in the air, but no consensus has been reached on the calculations or the overall strategy.

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There is uncertainty regarding the initial conditions, such as the initial velocity and the distance along the ramp, which are not provided in the problem statement. Participants are considering how to address these gaps in information as they formulate their approaches.

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Homework Statement



Sam (75 kg) takes off up a 50-m-high, 10 degree frictionless slope on his jet-powered skis. The skis have a thrust of 200 N. He keeps his skis tilted at 10 degrees after becoming airborne. How far does Sam land from the base of the cliff?

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F=ma
Kinematic Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I drew a free body diagram with Thrust pointing ten degrees out and with gravity pointing down. I set (Fnet)x=max, and solved for ax..which I found to be 2.63 m/s^2. I now have the accelerations of Sam along the x and y axes. I don't have v0, s, or t. How do I solve this problem?
 
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The question isn't clear. Is the ramp 50 m high or 50 m long? Where is the ramp relative to the cliff?

I don't see how you got 2.63 for the acceleration.
It seems to me you have to work out the part while he is on the ramp and the part where he is flying separately.
 
Delphi51 said:
The question isn't clear. Is the ramp 50 m high or 50 m long? Where is the ramp relative to the cliff?

I don't see how you got 2.63 for the acceleration.
It seems to me you have to work out the part while he is on the ramp and the part where he is flying separately.

The edge of the ramp is 50 m high. The edge of the ramp *is* the cliff.

I got 2.63 for ax by setting (Fnet)x equal to the x coordinate of Thrust. Thrust=200 N, so Thrust(x)= 200 cos 10=197=m*ax. Ergo ax=2.63 m/s^2.

The part while he is on the ramp cannot be calculated since no distance or initial speed is given. My strategy for solving the problem was to find the x and y accelerations by finding the net forces from the thrust and gravity, then using those x & y accelerations in the kinematic equations and treating the rest as a projectile motion problem, using the moment he leaves the cliff as t=0.
 
I would do the ramp part by assuming Vi = 0 and finding the length of the ramp using the 10 degrees and 50 m height. While on the ramp, Fg acts downward and Thrust along the ramp. The ramp also pushes on the guy, cancelling out the part of Fg that is into the ramp. So the only forces are the thrust and the component of Fg that is along the ramp surface.

I haven't thought about the flight part yet. I guess you'll have accelerated motion in both horizontal and vertical directions.
 

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