Force to accelerate an object downward faster than g

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This discussion focuses on calculating the force required to accelerate an object downward faster than gravitational acceleration (g). The user, Tom, seeks clarification on whether to subtract the gravitational acceleration (9.8 m/s²) from the desired acceleration (29.67 m/s²) before calculating the force. The consensus confirms that the additional force needed is calculated using the formula F = m(a - g), where 'a' is the desired acceleration and 'm' is the mass of the object. The discussion emphasizes understanding resultant forces and their impact on acceleration.

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Hello all.

I am trying to understand the math behind this and keep getting stuck. If I want to accelerate and object downward,lets say 16 inches in 0.1655 seconds , that would be faster acceleration than gravity. I think 29.67 m/s2, so if I calculate force to accelerate at that rate downward, Do I have to subtract 9.8 m/s2 from my acceleration of 29.67 before I calculate the force? IE 29.67-9.8=19.87m/s2 and then I use that acceleration of 19.87 against my mass to determine the force required?

Hoping for some clarification ,Tom
 
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I assume the thing is starting from rest and accelerating uniformly, because then you get the ##30 \text{ms}^{-2}## acceleration.

And yes, to determine the additional force you yourself need to apply, you subtract ##g## and multiply by ##m##. That's just because ##F + mg = ma \iff F = m(a-g)##.
 
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Thinking in reverse, in order to accelerate the same mass upwards at a similar rate, you need to add enough extra upwards force to compensate for the downwards force of weight.
The function of that extra force up is only to balance weight: any additional up force will be the only one contributing to up acceleration.

##a=F_{resultant}/mass##

Always think of acceleration as a result of applying a resultant force onto a mass.
 
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Yes Lnewqban I had this question a while back, I appreciate the response.

I was able to derive that by simply adding the weight of the load plus the force required to accelerate it on a vector would give me my final total F requirement.
 
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