Forces applied to a spring-loaded gas pedal

  • Thread starter Thread starter Theexploer
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Balance
Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the force applied to a spring-loaded gas pedal, specifically the tension (T) and the reaction force (R) at the pivot point O. The tension was calculated using the torque balance equation, yielding T = 4.7 N. The participants also explored the meaning of the second question regarding the direction, side, and density of R, which is interpreted as the reaction force acting on the pedal at point O. The torque equations and the roles of the forces were clarified throughout the conversation.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of torque and moment calculations in physics
  • Familiarity with vector notation and equilibrium conditions
  • Knowledge of basic mechanics, specifically forces acting on a lever system
  • Ability to interpret and manipulate trigonometric functions in physical contexts
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the principles of static equilibrium in mechanical systems
  • Learn about torque calculations and their applications in engineering
  • Explore the concept of reaction forces in pivot systems
  • Investigate the use of vector notation in physics problems
USEFUL FOR

Mechanical engineers, physics students, and anyone involved in the design or analysis of mechanical systems, particularly those related to automotive engineering and pedal mechanisms.

Theexploer
Messages
7
Reaction score
2
Thread moved from the technical forums to the schoolwork forums
TL;DR Summary: An accelerator pedal is located steadily on our line at point O, the spring AB is perpendicular to the accelerator pedal, keeping it balanced at an angle of 45 degrees. a = 45* the weight of the accelerator pedal is 10N and it is loaded on G. OG = 10 cm OB = 15 cm.
Question = Calculate the intensity of the force T applies to the accelerator pedal.
Question = Determine the direction, side, and density of R from point O.

For the firtst question i did like that =
As the pedal is in balance the sum of the moment of
external forces are zero
M(P)+M(T)+M(R)=0
M(R)=0 because it meets the axis of rotation
So M(P)+M(T)=0
If we choose a positive direction towards P
M(P)=P.dp or dp = OG.cosalpha=OGcos45°
M(T)=-T.OB
T=OGxcos45°xP/OB=10x10xcos45°/15
T=4.7N

But i'm not sure sor i can't do the second one.
WhatsApp Image 2024-02-14 at 21.48.13.jpeg
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Hello @Theexploer ,
:welcome: ##\qquad## !​

So this is a ##G## ,
1707945734347.png
right ? :wink:

But who is ##T## ? And ##P## ?

And did you render the complete problem statement ?

##\ ##
 
Yes, it's a G which is the point of gravity, T is the tension and P is the Gas Pedal which have a mass of 10N.

so i rendered the complete problem statement.
 
Theexploer said:
T=OGxcos45°xP/OB=10x10xcos45°/15
Let me asssume this translates as follows:
## OG## is a given distance, 0.1 m
x is 'multiply'
##P## is not the gas pedal but the weight of the gas pedal, 10 N

Theexploer said:
we choose a positive direction towards P
Does that mean ##P## = +10 N ? (i.e. down is positive) ?


##OG \cos 45^\circ## is the perpendicular distance of ##P## wrt ##O##
The 45 degrees is the angle AOB (not the other one, BAO)

##OG \cos 45^\circ P## is the torque you call M(P)
it's acting in clockwise direction (which you consider positive, right ?)

and M(T) is the torque the spring exerts. It's acting in counter-clockwise direction (so ##T## is pointing up?)
It is pointing perpendicular to OB, so the torque is ##M(T) = -T \ \text{OB}##

And the torque balance ##M(P)+M(T)=0## yields ##T= OG \cos 45^\circ P/ \text{OB}##

In a more conventional notation (torque as a vector and with y+ = up):

1707956983913.png


##\vec \tau_\text {left} +\vec \tau_\text {right} = 0 \Rightarrow ## ## \vec{\text {OG}} \times \vec mg ## ##+ \vec {\text {OB}} \times \vec T = 0 \Rightarrow## ## |OG|\, mg\sin\theta_1+ |OB|\, T\sin\theta_2 =0 ##
[edit] fixed typo
And I confess I have no idea what is asked in part 2. 'Density of ##R##' ? R doesn't occur in the story ...

##\ ##
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Theexploer
Theexploer said:
T=4.7N
Looks right.
But I don't understand the second question either. Is it a translation? Is R defined anywhere?
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Theexploer
I think R is the reaction force acting on the pedal at the pivot O. They want the magnitude ("density"?) and direction of this force. I don't have any idea what "side" of R means. The wording does appear to be a translation.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Theexploer
TSny said:
I don't have any idea what "side" of R means.
Maybe "direction, side, and density" means angle to the horizontal, to the left or to the right, and magnitude.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Theexploer and TSny
BvU said:
Let me asssume this translates as follows:
## OG## is a given distance, 0.1 m
x is 'multiply'
##P## is not the gas pedal but the weight of the gas pedal, 10 N


Does that mean ##P## = +10 N ? (i.e. down is positive) ?


##OG \cos 45^\circ## is the perpendicular distance of ##P## wrt ##O##
The 45 degrees is the angle AOB (not the other one, BAO)

##OG \cos 45^\circ P## is the torque you call M(P)
it's acting in clockwise direction (which you consider positive, right ?)

and M(T) is the torque the spring exerts. It's acting in counter-clockwise direction (so ##T## is pointing up?)
It is pointing perpendicular to OB, so the torque is ##M(T) = -T \ \text{OB}##

And the torque balance ##M(P)+M(T)=0## yields ##T= OG \cos 45^\circ P/ \text{OB}##

In a more conventional notation (torque as a vector and with y+ = up):

View attachment 340350

##\vec \tau_\text {left} +\vec \tau_\text {right} = 0 \Rightarrow ## ## \vec{\text {OG}} \times \vec mg ## ##+ \vec {\text {OG}} \times \vec T = 0 \Rightarrow## ## |OG|\, mg\sin\theta_1+ |OB|\, T\sin\theta_2 =0 ##

And I confess I have no idea what is asked in part 2. 'Density of ##R##' ? R doesn't occur in the story ...

##\ ##
Thanks for your help
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Lnewqban

Similar threads

  • · Replies 13 ·
Replies
13
Views
1K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 42 ·
2
Replies
42
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
21
Views
4K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
6K