Forces between charged particles

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The discussion centers on calculating the force between two charged copper spheres, considering a hypothetical scenario where the proton charge differs from the electron charge by 1 part in 10^9. The relevant equations include the mass of the sphere derived from its volume and density, and the total charge calculations based on the number of electrons and protons in the copper atoms. The user struggles with incorporating the charge difference into their calculations, specifically how to express the proton charge in relation to the electron charge. The correct approach involves defining the proton charge as slightly less than the electron charge and calculating the net charge accordingly.

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Homework Statement


Suppose the magnitude of the proton charge differs from the magnitude of the electron charge by a mere 1 part in 109.What would be the force between two 1.7-mm-diameter copper spheres 1.7cm apart? Assume that each copper atom has an equal number of electrons and protons.
Express your answer using two significant figures.

Homework Equations


M = ρ V
ρcopper = 8920 kg/m^3
Vsphere = 4*pi / 3 * r^3
Molar mass of Copper = 63.5 g/mol
1 mol = 6.02*10^23
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e=1.6*10^-19 C
k=9*10^9 N*m^2 / C^2
total negative charge = -e * #electrons
total positive charge = e * #protons

The Attempt at a Solution


Msphere = (8920 kg/m^3)(4pi/3)(1.7/2 * 10^-3)^3 *1000g/1kg= 0.0229 g

0.0229 g Copper * 1/63.5 mol/g * 6.02*10^23 atoms/mol = 2.17 *10^20 atoms of Copper

total negative charge = -e*(29)*(2.17*10^20)
total positive charge = (29)*(-e+10^-9)
net charge = the sum of the two above

The charge is the same for both copper spheres, so just plug and chug after this point. I am getting the wrong answer. I am certain it has to due with the calculation of the total charge on each of the copper spheres.

I am not sure how to tie the "Suppose the magnitude of the proton charge differs from the magnitude of the electron charge by a mere 1 part in 10^9." part into the actual charge of the copper atoms.
Please help--I don't understand what they mean.
 
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PyMaster said:
I am not sure how to tie the "Suppose the magnitude of the proton charge differs from the magnitude of the electron charge by a mere 1 part in 10^9." part into the actual charge of the copper atoms.
Please help--I don't understand what they mean.
Saying that something differs by one part in x, where x is some number, means that one of them is larger (or smaller) by an amount that is 1/x of the other.

So in this case you might decide to let the proton charge be smaller than the electron charge by one part in 109, so then
$$q_p = \left(1 - \frac{1}{10^9} \right) q_e$$
Of course you could make the proton charge the larger one, too, if you wish.

You could also just work with the differences in the charges, since ##\Delta Q = (q_e - q_p) = \frac{1}{10^9}q_e##
 

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