Forces Experienced On Moon and Earth - What is the mass?

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The discussion revolves around the forces experienced by an object on the Moon and Earth, specifically focusing on the relationship between gravitational forces and mass. Participants are exploring the equations of motion and gravitational force calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to relate the gravitational forces on Earth and the Moon using equations. There are discussions about the correct formulation of these equations and the implications of the values used. Some participants question the relevance of friction in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is actively exploring different formulations of the equations relating gravitational forces. Some participants have suggested equations that express the relationship between forces, while others are questioning the correctness of these formulations. There is a sense of collaborative exploration, with guidance being offered on refining the equations.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the gravitational force on Earth is 25 N greater than that on the Moon, and they are trying to clarify how to express this relationship mathematically. There is also uncertainty regarding the treatment of significant figures in the final answer.

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Homework Statement
an object on earth experiences a force of gravity which is 25N larger than the moon. If g(earth) = 9.8m/s^2 and g(moon) = 1.62m/s^2 .what is the mass of the object?
Relevant Equations
F=mg?
So, I decided to do

Fg=ma

I tried 25(9.8)=1.62m

m= mass

However, when i did it i got a mass of 151 but when i put it into its separate equations, the fg is not 25x larger

so fg=ma
fg=151(9.8)
= 1479.8and then fg=ma
fg=151(1.62)=
244.62

but 1479.8/244.62 is not 25 it ends up being 6.05

so i do not know where to go from here.
 
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Let Fe represent the force of gravity experienced by the object when the object is on the earth.
Let Fm be the force of gravity when the object is on the moon.

Can you write an equation that relates the symbols Fe, Fm, and 25N?
 
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TSny said:
Let Fe represent the force of gravity experienced by the object when the object is on the earth.
Let Fm be the force of gravity when the object is on the moon.

Can you write an equation that relates the symbols Fe, Fm, and 25N?
would it be fe(25)=fm?
 
TSny said:
Let Fe represent the force of gravity experienced by the object when the object is on the earth.
Let Fm be the force of gravity when the object is on the moon.

Can you write an equation that relates the symbols Fe, Fm, and 25N?
or with numbers (9.8)(25)=(1.62)?
 
I don't see anywhere in the problem that friction is involved. Why is friction mentioned in your thread title?

Edit: Thread title edited to better reflect the actual problem.
 
lola1227 said:
would it be fe(25)=fm?
This is not correct. You need to express the fact that fe is 25 N larger than fm.
 
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gneill said:
I don't see anywhere in the problem that friction is involved. Why is friction mentioned in your thread title?
my bad. I changed the title
 
TSny said:
This is not correct. You need to express the fact that fe is 25 N larger than fm.
so fe+25=fm
 
lola1227 said:
so fe+25=fm
That's better, but still not quite correct. If fe happened to be 50 N, what would your equation give for fm? Would the result make sense?
 
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TSny said:
That's better, but still not quite correct. If fe happened to be 50 N, what would your equation give for fm? Would the result make sense?
i see. would the equation be

m(9.8)=m(1.62)+25?
 
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lola1227 said:
i see. would the equation be

m(9.8)=m(1.62)+25?
Yes. Make sure that you feel confident with this equation.
 
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TSny said:
Yes. Make sure that you feel confident with this equation.
9.8x=1.62x+25
9.8x-1.62x=25
8.18x=25
x=3.056??
so would the mass be 3.056kg?
 
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lola1227 said:
9.8x=1.62x+25
9.8x-1.62x=25
8.18x=25
x=3.056??
so would the mass be 3.056kg?
Yes. (I don't know if you are required to express the answer with an appropriate number of significant figures.)
 
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TSny said:
Yes. (I don't know if you are required to express the answer with an appropriate number of significant figures.)
Thank you very much for your help!
 
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You are welcome.
 

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