Forces on High Velocity Object - Newtonian Formula

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the forces acting on a high-velocity object as it approaches the speed of light, specifically focusing on the application of Newtonian mechanics and relativistic effects. Participants explore the formulas for forces applied in different directions relative to the object's velocity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario involving an object with mass M1 traveling at a velocity V1=10m/s, suggesting that Newtonian mechanics can be applied since V1 is much less than the speed of light.
  • The same participant seeks to understand the force formulas when the object's velocity approaches the speed of light (V2≈C) for three specific cases: perpendicular, same direction, and opposite direction to V2.
  • Another participant provides a link to a resource discussing mass in special relativity, indicating that the second and third cases differ only by the sign of the force.
  • A subsequent reply proposes specific formulas for the forces in each case, incorporating the Lorentz factor (γ) for relativistic effects.
  • Further replies confirm the proposed formulas without additional elaboration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the application of the Lorentz factor in the proposed formulas for the forces, but the discussion does not resolve whether these formulas are universally accepted or if alternative views exist.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not address potential limitations or assumptions regarding the application of Newtonian mechanics at high velocities or the implications of relativistic effects in detail.

Who May Find This Useful

Readers interested in the intersection of classical mechanics and relativistic physics, particularly those exploring force dynamics at high velocities.

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Imagine a sequence where an object with mass M1 is traveling V=V1=10m/s straight through empty space relative to reference frame P. Since V1 << C, we can ignore relativistic effects. This implies that any force that may be applied too the object would be given by the Newtonian formula F=M1A. This is true in all possible directions the force F may be applied.

Now, i want to concentrate on 3 different directions the force may be applied when V=V2≈C. I wish too know what the formulas for the forces are when the force is applied;

(i) perpendicular too V2
(ii) in the same direction as V2
(iii) in the opposite direction as V2

Important: The force is in all three cases applied from reference frame P.
 
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After what i can understand from your link; the answer to my question would then be...

(i) perpendicular too V2
F=MγA

(ii) in the same direction as V2
F=Mγ3A

(iii) in the opposite direction as V2
F=-Mγ3A

(where γ is the Lorentz factor)
 
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That's it!
 
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