Forces on the slope of a triangular block

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the forces acting on a triangular block on an incline, specifically using Newton's second law of motion. The participant initially neglected the vertical forces, leading to an incorrect conclusion about the acceleration of the block. The correct approach involves recognizing that both the gravitational force components and the normal force contribute to the system's acceleration, resulting in the correct formula: (m+M)gtanθ. This highlights the importance of considering all force components in inclined plane problems.

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Homework Statement


I uploaded the question as an attached file.

Homework Equations


Fz = mg , F = ma ,

The Attempt at a Solution


The slope : x
Perpendicular to the slope: y
I thought the Y forces can be neglected because the normal force counters the y component of the gravitational force.
Fz,x = mg sinθ
Without an external force, Fz,x is the only force along the x-axis. So the acceleration a=F/m. This acceleration must be equal to the acceleration of the big block, so F=Ma = (mgsinθ)/m * M = Mgsinθ.
This seems logical to me but the answer book states a totally different answer: (m+M)gtanθ.
What did I do wrong?
Thanks in advance!
 

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What we require here is for the acceleration of the block down the incline plane to be equal to the acceleration of the system along the plane:

##a\cos(\theta)=g\sin(\theta)##

Now, use Newton's 2nd law of motion to rewrite ##a##, and solve for ##\vec{F}##.
 
caspeerrr said:
I thought the Y forces can be neglected
The acceleration of the block has a component in the y direction, so the y direction forces contribute to it.
caspeerrr said:
The slope : x
Perpendicular to the slope: y
The hint said to use vertical and horizontal axes.
 

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