Forces transferred to beam and to supports from box

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the load transferred from a cargo box to beams and subsequently to the supports beneath them. Participants explore methods for determining suitable beam specifications and the load distribution to each support, addressing both theoretical and practical aspects of the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Exploratory, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the problem is statically indeterminate, indicating that the loads depend on deflections in both the beams and the box.
  • Another participant suggests writing a vertical sum of forces equal to zero and moments in each horizontal axis equal to zero, but points out that this approach only yields three equations.
  • Several options for analysis are proposed, including creating a Finite Element Analysis (FEA) model, solving for force sums, or making educated guesses that satisfy the equations.
  • It is mentioned that for most engineering purposes, a combination of solving for force sums and making guesses may suffice, while a more precise approach would involve FEA.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on a single method for solving the problem, as multiple approaches are suggested and the complexity of the problem is acknowledged.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the limitations of the proposed methods, including the dependence on assumptions regarding deflections and the nature of the loads.

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Hi Guys,
I am trying to calculate the load transferred on the beams and then to the four supports (two under each beam) from a cargo (in this case say a box) to be stored in a yard.
I have to check the suitable beam to be used and the load transferred to each support.

Thanks in advance. :)
 

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As you are probably discovering, this is a statically indeterminate problem. The loads depend upon the deflections, both in the beams and in the box. You can write a vertical sum of forces equal to zero and moments in each horizontal axis equal to zero, but that only gives you three equations.

Your options are ---
1) Do an FEA model;
2) Solve for force sums (e.g., the sum of the forces at the left end, rather than taking them individually)
3) Make a group of guesses that satisfy the three equations.

For most engineering purposes, a combination of 2) and 3) will be sufficient. If you want to get very precise, go with 1).
 

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