Forces while walking and driving

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the forces involved while walking and driving, with a focus on understanding these forces through free body diagrams and the concept of work done in both scenarios. The scope includes conceptual clarification and exploratory reasoning regarding biomechanics and vehicle dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the forces at play while walking and driving, requesting a free body diagram and an explanation.
  • Another participant mentions friction against the ground as a common force in both walking and driving, and raises a question about the definition of work done.
  • A different participant discusses the biomechanics of walking, noting the flexed knee and the role of various joints as fulcrums, while contrasting this with the traditional view of a car's wheel fulcrum.
  • This participant also presents a personal interpretation of the fulcrum in a car, suggesting that the hub functions differently than traditionally believed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not appear to reach a consensus on the specific forces involved or the definitions of work done, and multiple viewpoints regarding the mechanics of walking and driving are presented.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the definitions of forces and work done remain unaddressed, and the discussion includes varying interpretations of mechanical principles without resolution.

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i am confused about the exact forces in play while we walk and while a car is driven, can anybody please show me a free body diagram regarding these with explanation? Also, which force does work when we walk?

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Hi troy611! Welcome to PF! :wink:
troy611 said:
i am confused about the exact forces in play while we walk and while a car is driven, can anybody please show me a free body diagram regarding these with explanation?

Friction against the ground, in both cases.

(plus, in normal walking mode, though not essential, falling very slightly onto each succeeding step)
Also, which force does work when we walk?

You tell us … how is work done defined? :smile:
 
The knee is always slightly flexed when walking. Also there are three fulcrum in human body as a machine, ankle joint, knee joint and hip joint. the pelvis also rotates in an important way. In a car wheel there is only one fulcrum traditionaly believed to be the hub. I have my own idea where the fulcrum should be. To me the hub is actually the load arm, axel effort and tire circumference the fulcrum. This observation though is not so popular
 
ohk...thanks everyone for helping out
 

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