Forming Images with a Plane Mirror

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The discussion revolves around problems involving mirrors, specifically focusing on the behavior of images formed by plane and concave mirrors. Participants explore concepts related to image distance, magnification, and the geometry of reflection.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between their speed toward a mirror and the rate at which the distance to their image decreases. Questions arise about the effects of walking at an angle to the mirror and how to calculate the resulting velocities. Another problem involves determining magnification and focal length for a concave mirror, with participants questioning the meaning of specific distances in the context of the equations used.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between distances and velocities, while others are still grappling with understanding the underlying concepts. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the equations related to magnification and the geometry of mirrors, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their reasoning.

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Participants mention constraints such as incomplete understanding of the lesson material and the need for clarification on specific variables in the equations. There is also a reference to homework rules that may limit the type of assistance sought.

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[SOLVED] Forming Images with a Plane Mirror

Homework Statement



(a) How rapidly does the distance between you and your mirror image decrease if you walk directly toward a mirror with a speed of 4.7 m/s?

(b) Repeat part (a) for the case in which you walk toward a mirror but at an angle of 31° to its normal.

Homework Equations



Don't really know any or I would have the answer.

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought that for part (a) that the velocity would just be the same because if you're approaching a mirror at a certain speed wouldn't the distance between decrease at the same velocity? Is there a concept that I need to know to understand this?

FYI: I have the Physics: Second Edition by James S. Walker. It's edited by Pearson Education and it has a red cover. If someone could just tell me what page to find something to help me with my answer that would be great. If I still don't understand I guess I'll put my questions here.
 
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As you walk towards the plane of the mirror your image also appears to approach the plane of the mirror at the same rate, right? It seems to be so in my shaving experience. Though not everybody shaves. Put the two motions together.
 
Oh, that makes sense. Wow, thanks.

So for part (b), I just did the answer from part (a) multiplied by the cos(31). It works but I don't completely understand why.
 
Same reason. The velocity at which you are approaching the mirror plane is (4.7m/sec)*cos(31). The image is approaching you at the same rate.
 
Okay, thanks for the help.

I haven't learned this lesson yet but I'm attempting to finish all the homework assigned for it. I'll probably come back when I run into another problem.

Thank you. :]
 

Homework Statement



Shaving/makeup mirrors typically have one flat and one concave (magnifying) surface. You find that you can project a magnified image of a light bulb onto the wall of your bathroom if you hold the mirror 2.3 m from the bulb and 5.0 m from the wall. (Include the sign of each answer.)

(a) What is the magnification of the image? (Enter a negative value if the image is inverted.)

(b) What is the focal length of the mirror?

Homework Equations



m=-d_i/d_o
1/f=1/d_o+1/d_i

The Attempt at a Solution



For part (a), I tried the magnification equation and got .46 doing 2.3 / 5. What exactly does the 5.0 meters represent in terms of a variable? If someone could answer that question I could probably do part (b).
 
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Dick said:
As you walk towards the plane of the mirror your image also appears to approach the plane of the mirror at the same rate, right? It seems to be so in my shaving experience. Though not everybody shaves. Put the two motions together.


Ha ha, "shaving"...

your funny Dick.

Einstienear
 
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Does anyone know how to help me, please?
 
asianface. said:

Homework Statement



Shaving/makeup mirrors typically have one flat and one concave (magnifying) surface. You find that you can project a magnified image of a light bulb onto the wall of your bathroom if you hold the mirror 2.3 m from the bulb and 5.0 m from the wall. (Include the sign of each answer.)

(a) What is the magnification of the image? (Enter a negative value if the image is inverted.)

(b) What is the focal length of the mirror?

Homework Equations



m=-d_i/d_o
1/f=1/d_o+1/d_i

The Attempt at a Solution



For part (a), I tried the magnification equation and got .46 doing 2.3 / 5. What exactly does the 5.0 meters represent in terms of a variable? If someone could answer that question I could probably do part (b).

the 5 meters is the distance to the image d_i
 
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Thanks kdv. :]
One last problem and I'm done.

Homework Statement



The rear window in a car is approximately a rectangle, 1.3 m wide and 0.30 m high. The inside rear-view mirror is 0.62 m from the driver's eyes, and 1.39 m from the rear window. What are the minimum dimensions for the rear-view mirror if the driver is to be able to see the entire width and height of the rear window in the mirror without moving her head?

Homework Equations



Googled the problem and came to this thread. Understood how to use the triangle but still got it wrong.
https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=163786

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried using the triangle in the thread from above but I still can't get it right. I'd show you how I got some of my incorrect answers but I don't have my work with me right now.
 
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Figured it out. Here's the equations you use.

\frac{h_i} {h_o} = \frac{d_i} {d_i+d_o}
\frac{w_i} {w_o} = \frac{d_i} {d_i+d_o}

My classmate showed me the equation but I don't understand why it works and neither does she. If anyone could explain it, please do. :]
 

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