Four charges each Q in magnitude

In summary, the electric field at point B is generated by all four charges as a function of q and L. The electric field is zero at any point in the square. The electric field is strongest at the equilibrium point between the two charges located at the corners of the square.
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Homework Statement


Four charges, each q in magnitude, are arranged in a square, two positive and two negative, in opposite corners. The square is L length on each side, and the charges are all in the same plane as shown in the diagram. Show work and units for full credit.

q+ -----B----- q-
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| | L
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q- ------------ q+
L
**vertical dotted line makes square but spacing corrects itself

A. Determine the magnitude and direction of the total electric field at point B (half way between the top two charges) due to all four charges as a function of q and L.

B. If placed at point B, which would accelerate faster, object 1 with a charge 2Q and mass M or object 2 with a charge Q and mass M/2? Why?

C. Draw the electric field lines in the plane of the square indicating the direction and general shape of the electric field generated by this charge arrangement. Hint: think about the electric field generated by two opposite charges.

D. Is the electric field zero at any point(s)? If so, where? Also, indicate any equilibrium point(s) and whether they are stable, unstable or neutral.


The Attempt at a Solution



A. E=(36/5)(q/L^2)

B. Both are equal a = 2qE/m = qE/(m/2)

D. 0 at top of square going in towards B from + and towards B for -
 
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What equation are you using for electric field strength?
 
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E=k(q/R^2)

and adding
 
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I got that from the bottom charges R=(sqrt(5)/2)L

and the other two cancel out because they go in towards B

E=k(q/(5/4)L^2)
 
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the E-field contributions by the top charges are both rightward:
away from +Q , and toward -Q (toward being "negative away"),
but some of this is canceled by leftward E-field by the bottom charges.
What fraction of the E-field contribution by the bottom left -Q is matched by the +Q on bottom right?
 
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The bottom left -Q and +Q would result in a leftward towards upper +Q but I thought the bottom ones would cancel out completely?
 
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away from the positive and toward the negative; only their vertical components cancel ... their horizontals double.
 
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so their force added would be 8kq/5L^2 .. ?
 
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each E-field contribution is 4/5 kQ/L² , but that is along the diagonal. You need to find the horizontal component.
 
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horizontal component: 2(4/5)(kQ/L^2)cos(180)+2(4/5)(kQ/L^2)cos(0)
 
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Look at the triangle that you used to find the diagonal distance. The E-field contribution is along that diagonal.
The negative's contribution is mostly down, but a little bit leftward ... left is L/2 compared to the diagonal L√5 /2 ... that is, the diagonal contribution is √5 times as long as the horizontal part that survives.
 
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So would the x component be:

Lcos(180)+Lcos(0)?
Ok (duh) it's running from b to the top charge(l/2)
Thanks for your help I never understand the x and y components
 
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the Ex/E ratio is the same as the Lx/R ratio ... each = sin theta (the skinny angle)
so Ex = E Lx/R , leftward (negative)
The E-field contributions from the TOP charges are at 0° (both are rightward)
 
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| \ E from bottom right +Q , upward
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Ex

sin theta = Ex/E , but also sin theta = ½L /R ... so Ex = ½L /R * E
 
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Okay so add ((L/2)/R)xE and EL/R then multiply by cos(180) + (8kq/5L^2) ?
 
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Or is the component 1/2L/R *E ?
 
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yes, pointing leftward, if you put the correct expression in for E. and R.
then you add these (subtract, actually) to the top Q's E-fields ; don't forget those, because they're much bigger!
 
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Yes to the first post
britt said:
Okay so add ((L/2)/R)xE and EL/R then multiply by cos(180) + (8kq/5L^2) ?


Correction at end:: + (8kq/5L^2)cos(0)


Or two the Ex=(1/2)L/R * E ?
 
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where did the 8 in the 8/5 come from?

don't confuse yourself by writing "cos(180)" when you mean leftward.
the triangle base is ½ ; the diagonal is 1.118 , so the base is .5/1.118 times as big.
the same ratio applies to the red arrows (E-field contributions)
http://www.science.marshall.edu/foltzc/addEsq.gif
 
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1. What is the electric force between the four charges?

The electric force between the four charges can be calculated using Coulomb's Law, which states that the force is directly proportional to the product of the charges and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. The equation for the electric force is F = k * (Q1 * Q2) / r^2, where k is the Coulomb's constant and r is the distance between the two charges.

2. How do the charges affect each other's electric fields?

Each charge creates its own electric field, and the electric fields combine to form a net electric field. The magnitude and direction of the net electric field at any point can be calculated by adding the individual electric fields created by each charge using vector addition. The presence of one charge can also change the electric field of another charge due to the principle of superposition.

3. What is the net electric potential energy of the system?

The net electric potential energy of the system can be calculated by summing the potential energies of each individual charge. The potential energy of a charge in an electric field is given by the equation U = k * (Q1 * Q2) / r, where k is the Coulomb's constant, Q1 and Q2 are the two charges, and r is the distance between them.

4. How do the charges distribute themselves in the system?

The charges will distribute themselves in a way that minimizes the potential energy of the system. This can be achieved by positioning the charges in a way that maximizes the distance between them, as the potential energy is directly proportional to the distance between charges. The charges can also distribute themselves in a way that minimizes the repulsive forces between them.

5. What is the net electric field at a point between the four charges?

The net electric field at any point between the four charges can be calculated by adding the individual electric fields created by each charge using vector addition. The direction of the net electric field will depend on the direction of the individual electric fields at that point, and the magnitude will depend on the distances and charges of the four charges.

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