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nismaratwork said:That, or he just abhors lies in the skin of journalism.
The discussion revolves around a Fox News report claiming that journalists, including a CNN crew, were used as human shields during military actions in Libya. Participants explore the implications of this claim, the credibility of the reporting, and the responsibilities of journalists in conflict zones.
Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the validity of the Fox report or the responsibilities of journalists. Disagreement exists regarding the nature of media bias and the effectiveness of different news outlets.
Participants note the absence of independent verification for claims made in the Fox report, highlighting the challenges of confirming information in conflict situations.
nismaratwork said:That, or he just abhors lies in the skin of journalism.
WhoWee said:Or maybe he feels used and angry that he was stood up by the "Libyan Strongman"?
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Fox said the CNN and Reuters sent their people but Fox didn't. This is a lie.russ_watters said:1. What lies are you referring to? Robertson's highly emotional retort refers to "lies" in generic terms, but does not actually cite any that I can see. Could you please be specific about what in the Fox report you think is a lie?
Where do you get this characterization that the report is being challenged in general terms? I heard a lot of specifics. Among those specifics, CNN pointed out the lie that Fox didn't send any of their people. CNN also went on to whine (my characterization) about how Fox was being hypocritical, and that it was extremely unlikely that they were being used as shield for <blah blah blah> reasons.2. By definition, the thesis/primary point of a report is the most important point of the report.
2a. When challenging a report in general terms, as CNN did, they imply - without evidence - that the primary point is wrong.
Gokul43201 said:Fox said the CNN and Reuters sent their people but Fox didn't. This is a lie.
Where do you get this characterization that the report is being challenged in general terms? I heard a lot of specifics. Among those specifics, CNN pointed out the lie that Fox didn't send any of their people. CNN also went on to whine (my characterization) about how Fox was being hypocritical, and that it was extremely unlikely that they were being used as shield for <blah blah blah> reasons.
The upshot: CNN whines; Fox lies.
There's a secondary point that I'm not supporting yet: CNN goes where there is a possibility to investigate something potentially newsworthy; Fox, by their own implication, decides that aiding in the war effort is their primary responsibility, not providing news.
Of course, while CNN could have pointed that out, they chose to whine instead.