Fox News: Who Used Journalists as Human Shields in Libya?

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The discussion revolves around a Fox News report claiming that journalists, including a CNN crew, were used as human shields during military actions in Libya. Participants explore the implications of this claim, the credibility of the reporting, and the responsibilities of journalists in conflict zones.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants criticize the Fox report as "outrageous and hypocritical," questioning its credibility and the motivations behind it.
  • Others express skepticism about the claim that a bombing run was canceled due to the presence of reporters, noting the lack of independent confirmation.
  • There are discussions about the responsibilities of reporters in conflict zones, with some arguing that journalists should be aware of the risks they take.
  • Some participants suggest that both Fox and CNN have their own biases and agendas, with Fox being labeled as a propaganda outlet.
  • A few participants reflect on the nature of media consumption, indicating a preference for internet news over traditional television news.
  • One participant mentions a study on brain activation differences between Democrats and Republicans, suggesting a psychological angle to media consumption and partisanship.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on the validity of the Fox report or the responsibilities of journalists. Disagreement exists regarding the nature of media bias and the effectiveness of different news outlets.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the absence of independent verification for claims made in the Fox report, highlighting the challenges of confirming information in conflict situations.

  • #61
nismaratwork said:
That, or he just abhors lies in the skin of journalism.

:smile:Or maybe he feels used and angry that he was stood up by the "Libyan Strongman"?:wink:
 
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  • #62
WhoWee said:
:smile:Or maybe he feels used and angry that he was stood up by the "Libyan Strongman"?:wink:

That is a distinct possiblity... I know I would be. That's an interview with a shelf-life right there... the next cruise missile could land on his Hershy's Kiss hat.
 
  • #63
russ_watters said:
1. What lies are you referring to? Robertson's highly emotional retort refers to "lies" in generic terms, but does not actually cite any that I can see. Could you please be specific about what in the Fox report you think is a lie?
Fox said the CNN and Reuters sent their people but Fox didn't. This is a lie.

2. By definition, the thesis/primary point of a report is the most important point of the report.
2a. When challenging a report in general terms, as CNN did, they imply - without evidence - that the primary point is wrong.
Where do you get this characterization that the report is being challenged in general terms? I heard a lot of specifics. Among those specifics, CNN pointed out the lie that Fox didn't send any of their people. CNN also went on to whine (my characterization) about how Fox was being hypocritical, and that it was extremely unlikely that they were being used as shield for <blah blah blah> reasons.

The upshot: CNN whines; Fox lies.

There's a secondary point that I'm not supporting yet: CNN goes where there is a possibility to investigate something potentially newsworthy; Fox, by their own implication, decides that aiding in the war effort is their primary responsibility, not providing news.

Of course, while CNN could have pointed that out, they chose to whine instead.
 
  • #64
Gokul43201 said:
Fox said the CNN and Reuters sent their people but Fox didn't. This is a lie.

Where do you get this characterization that the report is being challenged in general terms? I heard a lot of specifics. Among those specifics, CNN pointed out the lie that Fox didn't send any of their people. CNN also went on to whine (my characterization) about how Fox was being hypocritical, and that it was extremely unlikely that they were being used as shield for <blah blah blah> reasons.

The upshot: CNN whines; Fox lies.
There's a secondary point that I'm not supporting yet: CNN goes where there is a possibility to investigate something potentially newsworthy; Fox, by their own implication, decides that aiding in the war effort is their primary responsibility, not providing news.

Of course, while CNN could have pointed that out, they chose to whine instead.

re: bold: That actually seems to be their respective global MO's. I will never understand why CNN decided to become "CNN-Lifetime" :rolleyes:
 
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