Frames of Reference: Inertial vs Non-Inertial

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of inertial and non-inertial frames of reference, particularly in the context of space and time dilation. Participants are exploring the nature of frames of reference and the implications of motion at relativistic speeds.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants question whether "space" can be considered a frame of reference and discuss the necessity of defining a specific object in relation to frames. There are inquiries about the nature of time dilation, particularly concerning objects moving at the speed of light.

Discussion Status

The discussion has highlighted a range of misunderstandings regarding fundamental concepts in relativity. Some participants have suggested that a foundational understanding is necessary before delving deeper into specific questions. Guidance has been offered to seek external resources for better comprehension.

Contextual Notes

There is an indication that some participants are struggling with basic concepts, which has led to suggestions for independent study before further questions can be effectively addressed.

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is space an inertial or non inertial frame of reference?
 
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BLUE PEARL said:
is space an inertial or non inertial frame of reference?
"space" is not a frame of reference at all. You have to pick an object and say " the frame of reference in which this object is at rest"
 
phinds said:
"space" is not a frame of reference at all. You have to pick an object and say " the frame of reference in which this object is at rest"
can u please make me understand why time dilated in space?
 
BLUE PEARL said:
can u please make me understand why time dilated in space?
Time dilation has nothing to do with space. You, right now as you read this, sitting somewhere on Earth, are MASSIVELY time dilated according to a particle in the CERN accelerator. You are also slightly time dilated according to a fast-moving cosmological body, and you are not time dilated at all according to the chair you are sitting in.
 
phinds said:
Time dilation has nothing to do with space. You, right now as you read this, sitting somewhere on Earth, are MASSIVELY time dilated according to a particle in the CERN accelerator. You are also slightly time dilated according to a fast-moving cosmological body, and you are not time dilated at all according to the chair you are sitting in.
Sorry...!:frown:I can't understand yet . Plz explain it in simple way
 
BLUE PEARL said:
Sorry...!:frown:I can't understand yet . Plz explain it in simple way

This is not a sensible expectation. You can't expect someone on here to teach you a subject or a topic from the beginning. Instead, there are many resources online and in bookstores that will try to teach you pretty much any subject you could imagine.

If you have a specific question, you can ask it here and get some good insights.

No one can "make you understand" something. You have to study it for yourself and then ask if something confuses you.
 
PeroK said:
This is not a sensible expectation. You can't expect someone on here to teach you a subject or a topic from the beginning. Instead, there are many resources online and in bookstores that will try to teach you pretty much any subject you could imagine.

If you have a specific question, you can ask it here and get some good insights.

No one can "make you understand" something. You have to study it for yourself and then ask if something confuses you.
ok...could u please clarify me that why moving objects with speed of light experiences time dialation?
 
BLUE PEARL said:
ok...could u please clarify me that why moving objects with speed of light experiences time dialation?

I can't because the question is nonsense.
 
@BLUE PEARL, you really need to take the advice offered in post #6 and do some basic reading. Your questions make it clear that you have zero fundamental understanding of these concepts so asking random questions on an internet forum is pointless. You HAVE to get a basic understanding on your own before you can even ask meaningful questions.
 
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As has been said, we cannot teach you everything about a topic. You're going to need to look up some information on your own before we can help you.

Some links to look at:
http://www.pitt.edu/~jdnorton/teaching/HPS_0410/chapters/Special_relativity_principles/
http://www.sparknotes.com/testprep/books/sat2/physics/chapter19section1.rhtml
http://abyss.uoregon.edu/~js/21st_century_science/lectures/lec06.html
http://www.encyclopedia.com/topic/Special_relativity_(Physics).aspx

Give these a thorough reading. Once you've done so, feel free to start a new thread on this subject in the relativity forum. Thread locked.
 

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