France: Better Bread, Butter, Cocktails & More

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The discussion centers around the perceived superiority of French culture and cuisine compared to that of the United States. Participants argue that France excels in various areas, particularly food, with a consensus that French bread, butter, and pastries are of higher quality than typical American offerings. Some participants suggest that Italian cuisine may surpass French food, particularly in coffee and gelato. The conversation also touches on broader cultural aspects, including the French approach to humor, art, and literature, with references to famous French poets and chefs. Contrasting opinions emerge, with some asserting that American food, particularly Californian wine, can rival French standards. The debate extends to historical military comparisons, with claims about the outcomes of wars and the contributions of various nations during conflicts. Ultimately, the thread oscillates between light-hearted banter and serious cultural critique, reflecting a playful rivalry between the two nations while highlighting the complexities of food, history, and national identity.
  • #51
Pengwuino said:
America has conan, nothing else matters.
Did you mean O'Brian , or the guv'nor O'California? Or are they really the same guy?
 
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  • #52
Chi Meson said:
Did you mean O'Brian , or the guv'nor O'California? Or are they really the same guy?

What about The Barbarian?
 
  • #53
brewnog said:
What about The Barbarian?
What about John Travolta?

Mr. Kotter
 
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  • #54
what about inspector poirot

Lays bait and waits muuhhaaa :-)
 
  • #55
Chi Meson said:
Did you mean O'Brian , or the guv'nor O'California? Or are they really the same guy?

O'brian. And how dare you speak of Him without first using "The Lord and Master of all Comedy".
 
  • #56
brewnog said:
Didn't Norman Foster design the Pompidou?
no it was rogers & piano, whom I've never heard of. le corbusier was a visual artist who then got into architecture. he was the one who first designed buildings with exposed concrete, complete with the lines/marks made by the boards used to hold the concrete together until it set. he also thought it would be cool to build buildings on stilts, etc.
http://www.time.com/time/time100/artists/profile/lecorbusier.html
 
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  • #57
fourier jr said:
no it was rogers & piano, whom I've never heard of. [/url]

Ahh, good old Lord Richard Rogers of Riverside! He also designed the Millennium Dome, Madrid Barajas Airport, Heathrow Terminal 5, and some sexy little school.

Bloody nice chap.

/name dropping
 
  • #58
Who was it that saved France from this man again?
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  • #59
Spiderman?
 
  • #60
france sacrificed more than the US in any war they've both taken part in. example: in WWII france lost ~13 ppl/1000 while the US lost ~3. in WWI france lost 1,300,000, more than 10x the US. is it any wonder they call it the "lost generation?"
 
  • #61
so would that make you "The Next Generation"
 
  • #62
gravenewworld said:
Who was it that saved France from this man again?
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Depends whose history you read. In American history, or American films at least, it was just Americans. In more objective history, it was Americans, Brits, Australians, Belgians, Poles, Greeks, Canadians, Dutch, Kiwis, Norwegians, Czechs and... French!
 
  • #63
Who the hell learns their history from movies?

:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
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  • #64
Who was it that saved France from this man again?
Depends whose history you read. In American history, or American films at least, it was just Americans. In more objective history, it was Americans, Brits, Australians, Belgians, Poles, Greeks, Canadians, Dutch, Kiwis, Norwegians, Czechs and... French!
Arguably the Russians did more than most to stop the Nazis...
 
  • #65
Anttech said:
Arguably the Russians did more than most to stop the Nazis...
I would argue the same. However the question was: "Who saved the French from Hitler?" not "Who defeated Hitler?"
 
  • #66
Pengwuino said:
Who the hell learns their history from movies?
:smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
Presumably the same people who go around saying: "Who was it that saved France from this man again?"
 
  • #67
Brits, Australians, Belgians, Poles, Greeks, Canadians, Dutch, Kiwis, Norwegians, Czechs


How many people from these countries died on D-Day again? Face it. The allies were getting their asses kicked before Japan was stupid enough to bomb Pearl Harbor. No country in Europe could even compare to the military and industrial strength of the US (with the exception of England's navy).
 
  • #68
And I don't know what kind of bread you got, but I like crusty, yeasty breads with flavor and texture, as opposed to Wonder bread that tastes like air.

Dude of course French bread is better than wonder bread, you're comparing French food to stuff like McDonalds. Although I don't mind white bread on sandwiches, I really prefer potato bread. Oh! Especially potato hotdog buns! Here is how you make some awesome beer-dogs with potato buns.

1.Get your favorite wurst and grill them.

2. Get two cans of your favorite beer (Bud is good, but don't get light it doesn't have enough flavor) and about two vidalia onions (sliced) and simmer them until the beer gets really foamy, then turn the heat to its lowest setting and let it sit.

3. Once your wursts are plump and crispy (I like mine pitch black) toss'em in beer and let them sit for atleast an hour, but you can eat them when ever, the long you let them sit the better they taste.

4. When ready to serve, put the beer-wurst on a potato bun with whatever topping you want.

Depends whose history you read. In American history, or American films at least, it was just Americans. In more objective history, it was Americans, Brits, Australians, Belgians, Poles, Greeks, Canadians, Dutch, Kiwis, Norwegians, Czechs and... French!

True. But do you really think if Canada hadn't fought we would have lost?

No country in Europe could even compare to the military and industrial strength of the US (with the exception of England's navy).

Yes! No one can match America's over inflated military budget!:biggrin:
 
  • #69
Speaking of hotdogs. Hotdogs are great! I don't mean those crappy cheap hotdogs, I mean real hotdogs, beef dogs like Hebrew National or Nathan's. Thats real American food!
 
  • #70
Entropy said:
Speaking of hotdogs. Hotdogs are great! I don't mean those crappy cheap hotdogs, I mean real hotdogs, beef dogs like Hebrew National or Nathan's. Thats real American food!

Yah those are good! That hotdog will eat YOU

I have a feeling this thread is nearing derailment if entropy and el hombre and graveyboat or whatever don't be quiet:P
 
  • #71
no kidding, stay on topic please, geez
 
  • #72
tribdog said:
no kidding, stay on topic please, geez
Yeah. Where were we.

French hot dogs are better.
 
  • #73
French are better at making crappier hotdogs.
 
  • #74
The french make hot dogs?

shame...

I don't see what everyones problem is with that crappy air bread everyone sells. Who enjoys a sandwhich based on what kind of bread it was made on? pblackf
 
  • #75
Speaking of hotdogs. Hotdogs are great! I don't mean those crappy cheap hotdogs, I mean real hotdogs, beef dogs like Hebrew National or Nathan's. Thats real American food!
yeh stolen of the Germans...
I think the only real american food, are those "salads" you get in fast food restaurants, especially "Mexican" fast food that are like 5000000000000 Kcal. I had one of those, once.. It consisted of 1 lettus leave, 10 KG of Chilli sauce, some yak meat and a tomato... The Healthy option :smile: :smile: :smile: :smile:
 
  • #76
Chi Meson said:
I personally am a big fan of their Bike Race!

They have much much better bicycling champions than we do.

An American won that race the last seven years.

The French write better poetry. Give me Baudelaire or even Chretien de Troy over Whitman and Frost any day.
 
  • #77
Has somebody not detected the dry, ironic humor that was the intent of this whole thread?:wink:
 
  • #78
reeeaaaallllyyyyyyyyy... you mean this thread was... nnnooooo you must be joking :cool:
 
  • #79
Chi Meson said:
Has somebody not detected the dry, ironic humor that was the intent of this whole thread?:wink:

Well, you didn't seem to be joking about the bread.
 
  • #80
How many people from these countries died on D-Day again? Face it. The allies were getting their asses kicked before Japan was stupid enough to bomb Pearl Harbor. No country in Europe could even compare to the military and industrial strength of the US (with the exception of England's navy).
Blah Blah Blah Blah... And it wasnt "Englands" Navy it is the British navy! some people.. Is this really so difficult, it seems some peoples grasp on simple geography is almost as bad as their history
 
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  • #81
loseyourname said:
Well, you didn't seem to be joking about the bread.
Also not joking about the "better champions" either. Lance has won the TdF twice more than the 5 other great champions, but still ask any French cyclist: Jaques Anquetil, Laurent Fignon, Bernard Hinault, and Belgian Eddie Merckx are all "better champions" than Lance. Lance can only win one kind of race. The other "great champions" could win any race they entered.

I love bread. I think that great bread is available all over this country, but it doesn't matter; if it's French, it's better.

I have no point, really, just a recent realization that it doesn't matter what it is, if it's French, it must be better. And I'm OK with that.:smile:
 
  • #82
Anttech said:
yeh stolen of the Germans...

You do realize that America is made of nearly all immigrants so unless the native americans ate a certain food being discussed here, then there is no need to say some food was stolen... unless of course, you are that hyper-anti-american...
 
  • #83
loseyourname said:
An American won that race the last seven years.
The French write better poetry. Give me Baudelaire or even Chretien de Troy over Whitman and Frost any day.
Tribute to France by tribdog


"I hate you, you Amereecain!"
"I would push you out in ze rain."
But then Hitler came knocking
the flip flop was shocking
"Help me! I'm afraid of pain."

In France the cheese is called Bleu.
It's just moldy to me and you.
They accquired a taste
of what I would call waste
It's just too hard to make a batch new.

The plan was to build an array
Towers- past the Champs-Elysees
Mr Eifel built one
then shouted "I'm done"
I guess that is just the French way.
 
  • #84
You do realize that America is made of nearly all immigrants so unless the native americans ate a certain food being discussed here, then there is no need to say some food was stolen... unless of course, you are that hyper-anti-american...
Really, thanks for the heads up :-)

No I'm anti-you, not anti-american... It was a joke, but I guess you didnt get it... Could you not see the smile on my face??
 
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  • #85
Chi Meson said:
Also not joking about the "better champions" either. Lance has won the TdF twice more than the 5 other great champions, but still ask any French cyclist: Jaques Anquetil, Laurent Fignon, Bernard Hinault, and Belgian Eddie Merckx are all "better champions" than Lance. Lance can only win one kind of race. The other "great champions" could win any race they entered.

Oh come on! That's like saying Emil Zatopek was a better distance runner than Haile Gebresalassie because Zatopek also won a marathon. Athletic greatness in a single sport isn't measured by versatility. Babe Ruth wasn't a better pitcher than Warren Spahn just because he could also hit.

I love bread. I think that great bread is available all over this country, but it doesn't matter; if it's French, it's better.

Well, I've never had any bread from France, but I've also never had anything better than what my ex-girlfriend's mother used to make (she was using old Calabrian recipes).

I have no point, really, just a recent realization that it doesn't matter what it is, if it's French, it must be better. And I'm OK with that.:smile:

Better fashion, better literature, and better art. I suppose French cuisine might be better than American, but that isn't saying much, and I personally don't like either. You'll never get me to betray my neighbor vintners, either.

With regard to the architecture, French buildings might often look nicer, but you'd be hard-pressed to find anything as structurally sound as some of the skyscrapers and bridges in Los Angeles and the Bay Area capable of withstanding 8.0 earthquakes. Same thing with the street layout in Paris - it's more aesthetically pleasing, but the city grid in Manhattan makes a heck of a lot more sense and is much easier to navigate. French for style, but elsewhere for substance. Even in engineering, however, it does seem like America has slipped a bit outside of structural and chemical engineering. Quality products seem to be coming from Japan or Germany or someplace else. What do I know, though?
 
  • #86
Anttech said:
Really, thanks for the heads up :-)

No I'm anti-you, not anti-american... It was a joke, but I guess you didnt get it... Could you not see the smile on my face??

I'll tell you something both France and the US beat Belgium in: women. Search for "Belgian Women" on google and you get this:

http://www.ifbbbelgium.be/images/IFBB%20Women%20WK%202004.jpg

Along with a bunch of photos of that prairie-dog faced Kim Clijsters.
 
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  • #87
hahahaha... :smile:
Lucky I only live here... I am sure I recognise that woman on the left.. wait a minute... Its my BROTHER
 
  • #88
Chi Meson said:
I have no point, really, just a recent realization that it doesn't matter what it is, if it's French, it must be better. And I'm OK with that.:smile:

Their riot response sure is top grade!

What gave you the idea that if it's french, it's better?
 
  • #89
moose said:
Their riot response sure is top grade!
What gave you the idea that if it's french, it's better?
Why, the French gave me that idea. They're better thinkers. I used to resist, but now I just accept it.
 
  • #90
ha, i knew this would turn into a france versus the US of A thread.

Oh, and we won the battle of britain before the US got involved. And when i say we i am including all of the other nationalities that fought with us to stop the nazi's dominating europe.
 
  • #91
I wanted this to be a "you're better!" "No, You're better!" kind of thread.
 
  • #92
Andy said:
ha, i knew this would turn into a france versus the US of A thread.
Oh, and we won the battle of britain before the US got involved. And when i say we i am including all of the other nationalities that fought with us to stop the nazi's dominating europe.

I think the original point was that, without American involvement in D-Day, France was pretty screwed. Even if the Soviets had eventually taken back France from the Nazis, they would have just occupied it themselves.

Of course, without French help, I'm not sure the US would ever have successfully gained and kept its independence anyway.
 
  • #93
The Russians would have probably just declared a cease fire once they pushed Germany out of their territory if the Allies weren't able to re-take France. I don't see the Russians going into Germany with their losses and the extra firepower they would have had to fight against.
 
  • #94
Chi Meson said:
Why, the French gave me that idea. They're better thinkers. I used to resist, but now I just accept it.

*grabs a watch*

*dangles it*

you are getting very sleepy... very very sleepy... The United States is the greatest nation on Earth. We did everything first, even the things we weren't around to actually do first such as city sewer systems. Reject all notions to the contrary. Reject even those who agree with you. Buy me a coke.

*snaps his fingers*
 
  • #95
loseyourname said:
I'll tell you something both France and the US beat Belgium in: women. Search for "Belgian Women" on google and you get this:
http://www.ifbbbelgium.be/images/IFBB%20Women%20WK%202004.jpg
Along with a bunch of photos of that prairie-dog faced Kim Clijsters.

oh my god

*pukes all over the city*
 
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  • #96
Anttech said:
No I'm anti-you, not anti-american... It was a joke, but I guess you didnt get it... Could you not see the smile on my face??

I was also joking. And I am sure you saw the smile on my face as I can see that hidden camera you have behind my desk.
 
  • #97
Hey everybody! It's a great day! I'm great, you're great! Burgers are great! Coke is great! Grab an aptenodyte and let's get us some burgers coke and fr.. fr.. fries!
I'm feeling sleepy.:zzz:
 
  • #98
Chi Meson said:
Hey everybody! It's a great day! I'm great, you're great! Burgers are great! Coke is great! Grab an aptenodyte and let's get us some burgers coke and fr.. fr.. fries!
I'm feeling sleepy.:zzz:
Falling asleep faster than a hemidemisemiquaver...

FREHHDUM FRIES!
 
  • #99
I should paint some fries red, white, and blue and go up to people and tell them to eat it. If htey don't, ill call them unpatriotic.
 
  • #100
Pengwuino said:
I should paint some fries red, white, and blue and go up to people and tell them to eat it. If htey don't, ill call them unpatriotic.

:smile::smile::smile::smile::smile:

Can you tape it, and post the video online somewhere if you do? I'd love to see that.
 

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