Free body diagram(its simple but i don't know why i can't understand it)

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The discussion centers on the mechanics of two blocks, a 4kg block placed on a 5kg block on a frictionless plane, and the maximum force that can be applied to the lower block without causing the upper block to slide. The maximum static friction is calculated as fmax = μ mg = 12 N, where μ = 0.036. Participants emphasize the importance of understanding the forces acting on both blocks and the necessity of drawing free body diagrams to visualize the interactions and forces involved.

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Homework Statement


If a 4kg block is placed on top of a 5kg block which placed on a friction less plane and a force is applied on the lower 5kg block ,For what maximum value of force will the top block not slide ?
μ=0.036

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The Attempt at a Solution


The maximum static friction that the top block can experience is fmax=μ mg=12 N
But the force acts on the lower block so what will be the force on the upper block that the friction will counter?
It would be nice to get a free body diagram.
 
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Homework Statement


If a 4kg block is placed on top of a 5kg block which placed on a friction less plane and a force is applied on the lower 5kg block ,For what maximum value of force will the top block not slide ?
μ=0.036

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


The maximum static friction that the top block can experience is fmax=μ mg=12 N
But the force acts on the lower block so what will be the force on the upper block that the friction will counter?
It would be nice to get a free body diagram.

Would you agree that the 5 kg block will have to accelerate if a force is applied horizontally?
 
The frictional acts between the blocks: it is a force of interaction that opposes the relative motion of both blocks. Try to draw the free body diagram separately for both blocks.

What force acts on the upper block? What would happen to it without friction?

By the way, how did you get fmax=μ mg=12 N with μ=0.036?

ehild
 

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