Free fall with horizontal velocity

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The problem involves a spacecraft released from an airplane, which begins to experience horizontal velocity after a specified time while in free fall. Participants are discussing the calculations related to the spacecraft's velocity and displacement in both horizontal and vertical directions over time intervals.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of vertical and horizontal displacements and velocities at different time intervals. There is a focus on the instantaneous velocity after 2 and 3 seconds, with some questioning the assumptions made about the direction of motion and the interpretation of the problem statement.

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The discussion is active, with various interpretations being explored regarding the calculations and the reference frame used. Some participants have offered insights into the instantaneous velocity and the importance of maintaining consistent directional conventions. There is acknowledgment of potential discrepancies in the answer book, with one participant indicating a conversation with a professor about it.

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There is mention of confusion regarding the distinction between displacement and velocity in the original problem statement. Participants are also considering the implications of acceleration during the initial time period and how it affects subsequent calculations.

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Homework Statement


An airplane releases a spacecraft , after 2 seconds the spacecraft s engine starts providing it with a horizontal velocity of 6m/s relative to the aircraft. What is the magnitude and direction of the velocity after 2 seconds? After 3? Assume the spacecraft is in free-fall in the y direction.


Homework Equations


x=vit+1/2at^2
y=-1/2gt^2

The Attempt at a Solution


It seemed pretty easy... Plug t=2 into the y equation and get a y displacement of 19.6 meters. Then plug in t=3 and arrive at a y displacement of 44.2m, and an x displacement of 3m. Then take the arctan(44.19/3) to get an angle of -86 degrees. The problem is that the answer book appears to split the reference frame at t=2. They say that the y displacement between 2 and 3 seconds is only 4.91m. This doesn't make sense because the object should continue to accelerate downward regardless of the change in x acceleration. I would just assume that this was an error in the answer book, but that would be 3 in a row, and I don't trust myself that much. Any help would be appreciated.
 
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Don't you want instantaneous velocity?

After 2 seconds won't the dropping V be -19.6 m/s

After 3 horizontal will be 3 and vertical -g*t = -29.4 m/s

And overall |V| will be (32 +29.42)1/2 and direction via arc tan?
 
LowlyPion said:
Don't you want instantaneous velocity?

After 2 seconds won't the dropping V be -19.6 m/s

After 3 horizontal will be 3 and vertical -g*t = -29.4 m/s

I know I'm nit-picking, but doesn't the problem state that the spacecraft is falling in the y direction. So those speed should be positive.
 
It doesn't really matter so long as the direction chosen as positive is maintained through out.

I merely continued to use the direction already indicated by the OP's equation for y.

In general my preference is usually positive up anyway.
 
nah, looking for displacement, and your answer doesn't match their's anyway. They still get a total displacement of 19.6 meters to t=2. But looking at it more, they ignore the acceleration of the object over the first two seconds when calculating displacement over (2,3)
 
skiwolf said:
nah, looking for displacement, and your answer doesn't match their's anyway. They still get a total displacement of 19.6 meters to t=2. But looking at it more, they ignore the acceleration of the object over the first two seconds when calculating displacement over (2,3)

Are you looking for displacement or velocity? The original problem says velocity doesn't it?

As to my equation I see that I took the horizontal V to be 3 and in rereading the problem I see that should have been 6m/s at 3s.
 
doh... i miscopied the problem... that should say displacement after 2 seconds, sorry about that. Anyway, I talked to the professor, it was an answer book error, thanks for trying anyway.
 

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