Free-falling objects & how mass is effected

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The discussion revolves around the effects of mass on the motion of free-falling objects under gravity, specifically relating to acceleration, velocity, and time. The original poster reflects on their lab results regarding the acceleration of objects of different masses dropped from various heights.

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  • The original poster notes that their observations indicated consistent acceleration regardless of mass, raising questions about the expected outcomes of their experiment. Participants inquire about the original expectations and potential experimental errors, while also discussing the implications of acceleration being independent of mass.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's observations and uncertainties. Some have provided clarifications regarding the principles of free fall and the independence of mass from acceleration due to gravity. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and time for objects in free fall.

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The original poster mentions that their experiment may have been affected by significant experimental error, which is a point of concern in the discussion. They also reference a controlled environment (a vacuum) for their experiments, which is relevant to the assumptions being questioned.

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Homework Statement



How does mass affect the motion of objects falling freely under the influence of gravity? (relate to acceleration, gravity, velocity and time)


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This is a question that I am supposed to answer before looking at any equations. I did a lab on this but I don't think my lab reults were correct.

The Attempt at a Solution



My acceleration seemed to be the same for all the objects I dropped of different masses. When I released the same object from two different heights, when I dropped the object from a higher height I got a higher velocity. When i dropped two different objects of different masses from the same height, the velocity seemed to be the same. Are my observations correct or is there something wrong? What should be expecting?


* assume we're in a vacuum
 
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Just curious, what were you expecting before you performed the experiment?
 
I didn't know what to expect. I remember someone saying that if you dropped and feather and a hammer at the same time from the same distance they would drop to the ground at the same time so I assumed that acceleration would be the same (in a vacuum). That's all I really knew. Knowing that I would say that the difference in time would also be the same. But I'm not too sure about velocity.
 
drinkingstraw said:
I didn't know what to expect. I remember someone saying that if you dropped and feather and a hammer at the same time from the same distance they would drop to the ground at the same time so I assumed that acceleration would be the same (in a vacuum). That's all I really knew. Knowing that I would say that the difference in time would also be the same. But I'm not too sure about velocity.

Is there anything about your experiment which you think may have been experimental error? Or do you think you did each step correctly?
 
Jack21222 said:
Is there anything about your experiment which you think may have been experimental error? Or do you think you did each step correctly?

I know I have a lot of experimental error. The experiment itself wasn't carried out very carefully that's why I want to know what I should have expected so I can somehow make a comparison to my reults.
 
It sounds to me like before the experiment, you expected the acceleration to be the same. After the experiment, you calculated the acceleration to be the same, but you doubt yourself.

Just curious, what was your calculated acceleration?
 
Jack21222 said:
It sounds to me like before the experiment, you expected the acceleration to be the same. After the experiment, you calculated the acceleration to be the same, but you doubt yourself.

Just curious, what was your calculated acceleration?

Well they were all different but they were all around 8.9-10 and I was supposed to get 9.81 correct?
 
drinkingstraw said:
Well they were all different but they were all around 8.9-10 and I was supposed to get 9.81 correct?

Depends on how accurate your equipment is. I usually call it 9.8.

But yes, acceleration due to gravity is independent of mass. It's also constant (under normal conditions).
 
Jack21222 said:
Depends on how accurate your equipment is. I usually call it 9.8.

But yes, acceleration due to gravity is independent of mass. It's also constant (under normal conditions).

So if acceleration is the same then the time should be the same too right? The time it takes for both objects to hit the ground?
 
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drinkingstraw said:
So if acceleration is the same then the time should be the same too right? The time it takes for both objects to hit the ground?

You can work it out mathematically if you'd like. Let's say something starts at rest from 100m above the ground.

After 1 second, object 1 is traveling at 9.8 m/s, object 2 is traveling at 9.8 m/s
After 2 seconds, object 1 is traveling at 19.6 m/s, object 2 is traveling at 19.6 m/s

If two objects are accelerating at the same rate, they're moving at the same velocity. If two objects are moving at the same velocity and they start at the same point, they'll finish at the same time.

There is no mechanism to make one move faster than the other, if acceleration due to gravity is the only force acting on the objects.

EDIT: Object 2 is also traveling at 19.6 m/s after 2 seconds, had a typo previously
 
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Jack21222 said:
You can work it out mathematically if you'd like. Let's say something starts at rest from 100m above the ground.

After 1 second, object 1 is traveling at 9.8 m/s, object 2 is traveling at 9.8 m/s
After 2 seconds, object 1 is traveling at 19.6 m/s, object 2 is traveling at 9.8 m/s

If two objects are accelerating at the same rate, they're moving at the same velocity. If two objects are moving at the same velocity and they start at the same point, they'll finish at the same time.

There is no mechanism to make one move faster than the other, if acceleration due to gravity is the only force acting on the objects.

Thanks so much :)
 

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