Free particle and Heisenburg uncertainty principle

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The discussion revolves around the time evolution of a wavefunction for a free particle, specifically given an initial wavefunction that is zero for negative positions and defined for positive positions. The problem also involves exploring the Heisenberg uncertainty principle in relation to this wavefunction.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of momentum space eigenstates and the completeness relation in solving the problem. There is an attempt to express the time evolution of the wavefunction using integrals and Fourier transforms. Questions arise regarding the correctness of the expressions used and the implications of the initial conditions on the uncertainty principle.

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Some participants have pointed out potential mistakes in the mathematical formulation, particularly regarding the integration variables. There is ongoing exploration of the steps required to demonstrate the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, with some expressing skepticism about the relevance of the initial conditions to the problem.

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Participants note that the initial wavefunction being zero for negative positions may complicate the analysis of the wavefunction's evolution and its implications for the uncertainty principle. There is a mention of a participant going offline, indicating a potential pause in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Assuming at time is zero, the wavefunction of a free particle is given as

[tex] \Psi(x, 0) = \left\{<br /> \begin{matrix}<br /> 0, \quad x<0\\<br /> f(x), \quad x>0<br /> \end{matrix}<br /> \right.[/tex]

where f(x) is integrable within [tex](0, \infty)[/tex]


Find the time evolution of [tex]\Psi(x, 0)[/tex]. Write down the steps how to show Heisenberg briefly.

2. The attempt at a solution
Since this is a free particle, we use the completeness of eigenstates in momentum space to do the problem.

[tex]\phi_p = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\hbar}}\exp(ipx/\hbar)[/tex]

The orthogonality is

[tex]\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty}\phi^*_p(x)\phi_{p'}(x)dx = \delta(p'-p)[/tex]

The energy of the particle is given by

[tex]E=\hbar\omega = \frac{p^2}{2m}[/tex]

Now, the initial state can be written in terms of eigenstates of momentum (or Fourier transform)

[tex]\Psi(x, 0) = \int c(p) \phi_p(x) dp[/tex]

multiply both side with [tex]\phi_{p'}(x)[/tex], take the integral and applying orthogonality, we find

[tex]c(p) = \int \Psi(x, 0)\phi^*_p(x)dx[/tex]

Hence , the time evolution of the initial state is just

[tex] \begin{matrix}<br /> \Psi(x, t) & = & \displaystyle{\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dp \left[\int \Psi(x, 0)\phi^*_p(x)dx\right]\phi_p(x) \exp(-i\omega t)} \\ \\<br /> & = & \displaystyle{\int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dp \left[\int \Psi(x, 0)\phi^*_p(x)\phi_p(x)dx\right] \exp(-i\omega t)} \\ \\<br /> & = & \displaystyle{\frac{1}{2\pi\hbar} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dp \exp(-i\omega t)\left[\int_0^\infty \Psi(x, 0)dx\right]} \\ \\<br /> & = & \displaystyle{\frac{F(x)}{2\pi\hbar} \int_{-\infty}^{+\infty} dp \exp\left(-i\frac{p^2}{2m\hbar}t\right)}<br /> \end{matrix}[/tex]

where

[tex] F(x) = \int_0^\infty f(x) dx [/tex]


So far, I think my solution is quite correct, right? But I thought about it for long time and have no idea how to do the last integral!


For illustrating the Heisenberg principle based on the initial state, the steps could be concluded as

1) find [tex]\langle x^2 \rangle[/tex] and [tex]\langle x \rangle[/tex] in initial state [tex]\Psi(x, 0)[/tex], so the variance of x would be

[tex]\Delta x = \sqrt{\langle x^2 \rangle - \langle x \rangle^2}[/tex]

2) find [tex]\langle p^2 \rangle[/tex] and [tex]\langle p \rangle[/tex] in momentum state [tex]\phi(p)[/tex], so the variance of p would be

[tex]\Delta p = \sqrt{\langle p^2 \rangle - \langle p \rangle^2}[/tex]

3) multiply [tex]\Delta x[/tex] and [tex]\Delta p[/tex] to find the relation.
 
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No, sorry, you made a mistake in the first equation after "Hence". There are two different x's in this equation, the one being integrated over in brackets, and the one that is an argument of [itex]\Psi[/itex] on the left, and of [itex]\phi_p[/itex] on the right.
 
Avodyne said:
No, sorry, you made a mistake in the first equation after "Hence". There are two different x's in this equation, the one being integrated over in brackets, and the one that is an argument of [itex]\Psi[/itex] on the left, and of [itex]\phi_p[/itex] on the right.

Oh, how careless I am ... so I know what's going on now.

What about the second part? Is that the right steps to prove Heisenberg uncertainty principle?
 
I guess. I actually don't think this is a very good question. Knowing that the initial wave function is zero for x<0 isn't very helpful for finding out the wave function at later times, so it's not clear to me what they're looking for in terms of the uncertainty principle.

I'm about to go offline for a week, so won't be able to reply further. Good luck!
 
Well, in any case, the integral you were trying to do is commonly encountered in quantum mechanics. Try taking the Fourier transform of the Dirac delta function and see what happens.
 

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