News Freedom of Speech: Challenges & Consequences

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The discussion centers on the challenges of free speech in moderated online forums and society at large. Participants argue that moderation stifles open debate on controversial topics, which they believe is detrimental to societal improvement. They express concerns about political correctness and censorship, suggesting that these practices prevent necessary discussions about pressing issues like abortion, immigration, and media freedom. The conversation highlights the distinction between private property rights of website owners and the concept of free speech, asserting that moderation is not an infringement of rights but a reflection of community standards. Some contributors emphasize that forums like Physics Forums have specific guidelines to maintain focus on their primary topics, such as science, and that users have the option to create their own platforms for unrestricted expression. The debate also touches on the implications of political statements and the responsibilities of journalists, particularly referencing Julian Assange and the reactions to his work. Overall, the thread illustrates a tension between the desire for unrestricted speech and the realities of community moderation and societal norms.
  • #51
jtbell said:
You can see what the result would be, by reading some Usenet newsgroups,

Yup, and I notice that OP does not answer my question which is kinda of humorous:

Freedom of Speech = I dump my private thoughts straight out as "the truth", and then ignore any difficult viewpoints!

:biggrin:
 
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  • #52
DevilsAvocado said:
Freedom of Speech = I dump my private thoughts straight out as "the truth", and then ignore any difficult viewpoints!

Perhaps a little too close to home? :rolleyes:
 
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  • #54
jtbell said:
You can see what the result would be, by reading some Usenet newsgroups, or by reading the comments section at the bottom of most articles on cnn.com. (Maybe CNN does moderate those comments, but I sure can't tell by looking at them!)

usenet got along just fine until AOL and webTV
 
  • #55
Proton Soup said:
usenet got along just fine until AOL and webTV

Yeah, but you did run across things you could never 'un-see' while just looking for harmless chat. Nothing like downloading a rar file of documents, only to find someone having maritals with a dog in a jpeg. That's a true story btw, and I still have no CLUE why some people would pull that kind of stupid junk.

That's extreme, but Usenet was notorious for "caveat emptor" ruling over every intellectual or digital transaction.

AOL was miserable, but at least it put up a partition between people trying to hustle teenagers and the rest of us trying to just use the internet. If that's what Usenet getting along fine was, no thank you at this point in my life.
 
  • #56
azzkika said:
...it does not take long for topics on these matters to quickly become locked as many things are deemed offensive.

Locking a thread is a lot easier than moderating it. Having been an admin or mod for a quarter of a century, I do not consider thread locking to be a valid tool.

Unfortunately, sometimes it is necessary to lock a thread, but that's usually either at the outset, when the topic itself violates forum rules, or when the posts have become so prolific and rule-violating that mod resources are simply overwhelmed.

As far as "offense" goes, it's not something people do to others. It's something people take, as in "I took offense to that." He who refuses to take offense cannot be offended.

Democracy has long been dead and censorship of thought and opinion seeks to keep it that way.

Depending on the forum, censorship sometimes abounds, but that's the right (and sometimes the responsibility) of those who own/run the forum. I've found only slight censorship, here, which is one of the reasons I enjoy returning here.

If you'd like to find an online place void of censorship, one where you can openly discuss anything you want, they're a dime a dozen, or you can start your own.

Personally, I find an appropriatedly-moderated forum a welcome refreshment compared to most forums, some of which read like a sewage treatment plant.
 

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