News French Senate Approves a Ban on Burqas

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The French Senate has voted to ban face-covering clothing, including burqas and naqabs, reflecting strong public support, with 82% of surveyed citizens in favor. The ban is viewed by some as a symbolic measure against Islam rather than a practical solution, given that less than 1% of the Muslim population in France wears such garments. Critics argue that the legislation represents government overreach and question the justification for restricting religious practices. The discussion touches on broader themes of cultural integration and the implications of government regulation on personal freedoms. Ultimately, the ban raises significant questions about the balance between security, social norms, and religious expression in Western societies.
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nismaratwork said:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2905649&postcount=203

It's one of the first things I cited, remember?
Whatever, I think you are an impossible person to have a discussion with.

jarednjames said:
Sorry, I was asking if the French ban is specifically against the burqa or does it also extend to all face covering?
To all face covering. Today it was announced that The Netherlands is also planning to instate a law against all face covering.
 
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  • #252
Monique said:
Whatever, I think you are an impossible person to have a discussion with.

That's a pretty insulting statement, considering the number of discussions I've had here. BobG cited something quite similar... is he impossible as well? I keep saying I'm happy to broaden the discussion in an appropriate thread, but the bottom line here is that you keep citing public safety laws, when this is a CULTURAL law. Just because I won't have the discussion you want to make this, doesn't mean I'm impossible, it just means I won't be sidetracked here. I can appreciate why that would piss you off, but is this really the kind of thing you want to be saying as staff here?

A big problem here is that when people start to lose traction with one point of a disagreement, they try to move away from it to a new sub-topic; I'm not playing ball with that. Let's finish THIS, then we can move on to the broader issues you've raised, where I think you'll find we have far less disagreement. I'm not the one dismissing you out of hand because you keep running this in circles, in fact I continue to be responsive.
 
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Monique said:
Whatever

A bit childish don't you think? My teenage sister says this all the time and it is one of the most pointless statements used. "I don't care what you say / what evidence you give, I know I'm right." is the gist of it. As soon as that is used I just give up because it's clear she isn't going to accept anything I say, regardless what evidence I give. Any debate there was is over.
To all face covering.

So why are we debating the burqa? If it applies to all face covering in France, then it specifically doesn't target Muslims. So what's the problem? The way this thread has gone I could have sworn the French had banned only the burqa. Just sounds like they don't want people concealing their identities. I agree with it even more in that case.
 

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