Frequency shift of emitted photon due to recoil

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on the frequency shift of emitted photons due to atomic recoil, specifically analyzing the equation (f-f0)/f = ±hf/(2Mc^2), where M is the mass of the atom and f0 is the uncorrected frequency. Participants explore the implications of momentum conservation and energy changes during photon emission, highlighting the importance of using the average velocity of the atom during the transition. A key conclusion is that energy conservation must be applied correctly to derive the accurate frequency shift, as demonstrated by the alternative approach presented by Rajini.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of photon emission and absorption processes
  • Familiarity with the Doppler effect for light
  • Knowledge of momentum and energy conservation principles
  • Basic concepts of relativistic physics
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of the Doppler effect for light in detail
  • Learn about relativistic energy conservation in photon emission
  • Explore the implications of atomic recoil on photon frequency shifts
  • Investigate the role of average velocity in emission processes
USEFUL FOR

Physics students, researchers in quantum mechanics, and anyone studying atomic interactions and photon behavior will benefit from this discussion.

Cruikshank
Messages
82
Reaction score
4
(From Bransden and Joachain Chapter 1 problem 21):
Show that the fractional change in the frequency of a photon absorbed or emitted by an atom initially at rest is (f-f0)/f = +- hf/(2Mc^2) where M is the mass of the atom and f0 is the frequency of the transition uncorrected for the recoil of the atom.

Homework Equations


Momentum: 0 = Mv+hf/c
Energy is not conserved; the internal energy of the atom changes (an electron jumps.)
Doppler effect for light: f = f0((1-v/c)/(1+v/c))^(1/2) =f0(Root)

The Attempt at a Solution


f-f0 = f0[Root - 1]

(f-f0)/f = f0[Root -1]/{(f0)(Root)} = 1- 1/Root = 1 - [(1+v/c)/(1-v/c)]^1/2
(1+v/c)/(1-v/c) = 1 + (2v/c)/(1-v/c)
Using binomial expansion and assuming hf<<Mc^2, the square root becomes roughly
1 + 1/2[(2v/c)/(1-v/c) = 1 + (v/c)/(1-v/c), and since v/c =hf/Mc^2
(f-f0)/f ~1 - [1 + (v/c)/(1-v/c)] = (-v/c)/(1-v/c) = -hf/(Mc^2) / [1 - hf/Mc^2]
= -hf/[Mc^2 - hf] ~ -hf/Mc^2
This is double the correct answer.
My best guess is that somehow an average velocity of the atom during the transition
process is what should be used for the v, giving v/2 assuming constant acceleration.
But I don't really understand the details of the emission process and what should go into
the Doppler formula during an acceleration.

My interpretation of a reply by Rajini in the "Gamma Ray Emission" thread:
If one instead assumes that the original energy E=hf of the uncorrected photon loses a
certain fraction to kinetic recoil (1/2mv^2), and that E(recoil)/E = (f-f0)/f, then one
can use momentum AND energy, giving
1/2Mv^2 = 1/2M(E/Mc)^2 = E^2/(2Mc^2). so 1/2Mv^2/E = E/(2mc^2), the right answer.
That looks quick and painless.

My question is, what is wrong with my solution? Is it that the atom accelerates through a distance d which is 1/2vt, where v is the final recoil speed and t the time of transition?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Cruikshank said:
Momentum: 0 = Mv+hf/c
Energy is not conserved; the internal energy of the atom changes (an electron jumps.)
Incorrect. You need to conserve relativistic energy. Initially, you have an excited atom (more massive) and finally you have an atom in a lower state (less massive) and an emitted photon. You cannot do this problem without conserving energy.
Doppler effect for light: f = f0((1-v/c)/(1+v/c))^(1/2) =f0(Root)
You don't want to go there.
 
I think I get it. E0=hf0 = the excitation energy of the stationary atom. It turns into kinetic energy of recoil, and energy of emitted photon, and so E is conserved that way. I thought there was not enough information to use conservation of energy. Thank you.

On the other hand, my approach works just fine if one includes the average velocity during emission.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
386
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
844
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
11K
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K