Frictional force/coeff of friction

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving frictional force and the coefficient of friction for a skier descending an inclined slope. The skier has a mass of 64 kg and starts from rest on an 18-degree slope that is 65 m long, reaching a speed of 15 m/s at the bottom. Participants are exploring how to calculate the x component of weight, frictional force, and the coefficient of friction.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss drawing free-body diagrams and writing out the sum of forces in both x and y directions. There is uncertainty about the correctness of the calculated forces and the approach to finding the frictional force and coefficient of friction.

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Some participants have provided suggestions for approaching the problem, including verifying the coordinate axes and ensuring the net force in the y direction is zero. There is acknowledgment of differing results for the frictional force, with some participants noting potential rounding errors in their calculations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may impose specific methods or approaches to be used. There is a noted discrepancy between the calculated values and those provided in the textbook, leading to discussions about accuracy and assumptions in the problem setup.

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I have been working at this question for a while. I have to find the frictional force and the coefficient of friction. skier has a mass of 64kg, starts at top of a 18 degree slope and let's gravity take her downhill. slope is 65 m long and her speed is 15 m/s when she get to the bottom. how do I find the x component of weight as well? The answer for coefficient is 0.14N according to the book and frictional force is 83N.



Fnet=mg
fk=ukFn




I came up with Fn=605N in relation to the y axis. a=3.03 m/s^2 (alteast what I got)
I have tried a thousand different ways to do this and I keep getting myself more confused. The number I keep coming up with for coeff is .32 and I don't have a clue about frictional force. Any help would be great.
 
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My first suggestion is to draw a free-body diagram if you have not done so yet. Next, write out the sum of the forces in the x and y directions.
 
I have written out the free body diagram. the sum of the forces for x I have is 197N and for y it is 605. I am not sure if these are exactly correct. for y I used mg cos theta, and for x I used mg sin theta
 
Assuming you've got your coordinate axes oriented properly, you should find that the net force in the y direction is 0. As a suggestion, don't plug numbers in until you arrive at your final expression.

Some help since I will be signing off for the night:

Fy = F_N - mgcos(theta) = 0

Fx = mgsin(theta) - F_f = ma

Therefore, F_f = mgsin(theta) - ma

Since F_f is of constant magnitude, the acceleration will be uniform, hence, V_f^2 = 2ax.

Hopefully you can do the rest from here on out, good luck.

P.S. I think the answer for the friction force should be 87 N, I'm not positive though, my math could be wrong.
 
Thanks very much. I got 85 for my frictional force and .14 for coeff. The book says 84N for frictional and .14 for coeff. That should be close enough. I am off one for frictional force, but that could be rounding errors. Thanks again
 

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