Frictional forces and the angle for minimum frictional force

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves determining the angle at which a pulling force should be applied to minimize the frictional force while dragging a packing crate across a rough floor. The subject area includes concepts of friction, forces, and motion in physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the forces involved, including the pulling force and frictional force, and the implications of maintaining constant speed. Questions arise regarding the relationship between the angle of the pulling force and the resulting frictional force.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring various forces at play and questioning how the angle affects the magnitude of the pulling force. There is an acknowledgment of the need to relate the angle to the minimum force, but no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there is no vertical acceleration, which influences the equations being considered. The problem constraints include the requirement to maintain constant velocity and the specific coefficients of friction provided.

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Homework Statement


A person is dragging a packing crate of mass 100 kg across a rough floor where the coefficient of kinetic friction is 0.400. He exerts a force F just sufficient to keep the crate moving at a constant velocity. At what angle above the horizontal should his pulling force F be for it to be minimum?

Homework Equations


Frictional Forces = UkN

The Attempt at a Solution


Frictional Force = Uk(mg)(cosx)

Im stuck.
 
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I like the "I'm stuck" (you wouldn't post if you weren't). But ##F_{fric} = \mu_k mg\cos\theta## doesn't count as an attempt.

What forces play a role and how can you express the constant speed in an equation ?
 
Forces that play a role:
1) Pulling force F
2) Frictional force

Constant speed means that there is no acceleration.
F = ma = m(0) = 0
 
Frictional force is horizontal, pulling is in some theta direction. What else ? (hint: you already wrote mg -- and there's no vertical acceleration either). So we have a few equations. Magnitude of pulling force might depend on theta. If so, there might be a minimum !
 
Forces that play a role:
1) Pulling force F at an angle
2) Horizontal Frictional force
3) Weight of the block

Yes i understand that the magnitude of the puling force depends on theta, however, how do i relate it to the minimum force?
 
One force missing still.
If |F| depends on theta like, say ##2-\cos^2\theta## then zero degrees would give a nice minimum, wouldn't it ?
 
Is it the upward force generated by the pull at an angle?
 
Wouldn't that mean that if you don't pull, the box drops down like a brick ?
 

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