Frictional Forces: Paper & Object on Top

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The discussion revolves around the dynamics of frictional forces involving a piece of paper and a massive object resting on top of it. Participants are exploring the interactions between the forces acting on both the paper and the object when the paper is pulled.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants are examining whether the force exerted when pulling the paper affects only the paper or also the object on top. There are questions regarding the nature of friction and how it relates to the motion of both the paper and the object.

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The conversation is active, with some participants providing insights into the forces at play, including static and dynamic friction. Questions about the relationship between the acceleration of the paper and the object are being explored, indicating a productive examination of the concepts involved.

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There is an underlying assumption regarding the conditions of motion, such as whether the paper is moving or stationary, and how this affects the forces experienced by the object on top.

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if I have a pieace of paper, a massive object resting ontop of it, and I pull the paper, am I exerting a force only on the paper or on the object on top of it? Or does the object on top have only friction acting on it?
 
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You are exerting a force directly on the paper, and that force will equal the force which is the sum of forces of friction between the paper and the table, which is related to the mass on top of the paper.

If the paper is not moving then the force will be given by the product of static coefficient of friction (between paper and surface supporting it) and the weight on the paper. If the paper is moving then it will product of dynamic coefficient of friction (between paper and surface supporting it) and the weight on the paper, plus the product of the mass and whatever acceleration is applied to the mass. If the paper is pulled abruptly, the force will be the sum of the friction between the paper and supporting surface and the friction between paper and mass.
 
If the paper is moving then it will product of dynamic coefficient of friction (between paper and surface supporting it) and the weight on the paper, plus the product of the mass and whatever acceleration is applied to the mass.

so when you say the acceleration applied to the mass, is that the same as the acceleration applied on the paper?
 
grief said:
so when you say the acceleration applied to the mass, is that the same as the acceleration applied on the paper?
In the case where the mass remains in contact with the paper, and does not move with respect to the paper.
 

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