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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving two stones thrown vertically upward at a speed of 45.50 m/s. The first stone is thrown at time t=0, while the second stone is thrown 3.810 seconds later. The time at which both stones reach the same height is calculated to be approximately 6.55 seconds. The equations of motion used include h1 = vt - 0.5gt² and h2 = v(t-3.81) - 0.5g(t-3.81)², with gravitational acceleration (g) taken as 10.0 m/s².

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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

A stone is thrown vertically upward at a speed of 45.50 m/s at time t=0. A second stone is thrown upward with the same speed 3.810 seconds later.

1) At what time are the two stones at the same height?
2) At what height do the two stones pass each other?
3) What is the upward speed of the second stone as they pass each other?

I'm pretty sure I could do #2 and #3, as long as I got some help first on #1.

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wd4gdz said:
A stone is thrown vertically upward at a speed of 45.50 m/s at time t=0. A second stone is thrown upward with the same speed 3.810 seconds later.
At what time are the two stones at the same height?


h1 = v*t - .5*g*t^2
h2 = v*(t-3.81) - .5*g*(t-3.81)^2
if h1=h2 , then
t = v/g + 3.81/2

if we have g = 10.0 and v = 45.50 , we get
t=6.455 seconds
 
Here, Ill write it out fully for you (with units), since Rogerio already solved it:

d_1 = Vt + \frac{1}{2}at^2

d_2 = V(t-3.810s) + \frac{1}{2}a(t-3.810s)^2

d_1 = d_2

Vt + \frac{1}{2}at^2 = V(t-3.810s) + \frac{1}{2}a(t-3.810s)^2

subbing in your values:

(45.5m/s)t - (4.9m/s^2)t^2 = (45.5m/s)(t-3.810s) - 4.9m/s^2(t-3.810s)^2

(45.5m/s)t - (4.9m/s^2)t^2 = ((45.5m/s)t - 173.4m) - 4.9m/s^2(t^2 - (7.62s)t + 14.5s^2)

-(4.9m/s^2)t^2 = - 173.4m - 4.9m/s^2(t^2) + (37.3m/s)t - 71.05m

173.4m + 71.05m = (37.3m/s)t

244.45m = (37.3m/s)t

\frac{244.45m}{37.3m/s} = t

t = 6.55s
 
I have this same problem. I got the first part, but I have no idea where to start for the second part. Can someone give me a hint?
 
If you did the first part, then you know how to write the height as a function of time. And you now have the time. Plug it in!
 
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