Function for the velocity of a bouncing ball

[Jeven]

I graphed different heights from which I had dropped a bouncing rubber ball on the y-axis and the time taken for it to bounce on the x-axis. The function came out to be quadratic, but I do not know why. If someone can show mathematically why this is, that'd be splendid. Thank you.

 

[Guneykan Ozgul]

I graphed different heights from which I had dropped a bouncing rubber ball on the y-axis and the time taken for it to bounce on the x-axis. The function came out to be quadratic, but I do not know why. If someone can show mathematically why this is, that'd be splendid. Thank you.

What do you exactly mean by the time taken for it to bounce? Is it the time taken for it to reach to the ground or to reach the ground and bounce a few times and stop due to loss of energy?

 

[ehild]

I graphed different heights from which I had dropped a bouncing rubber ball on the y-axis and the time taken for it to bounce on the x-axis. The function came out to be quadratic, but I do not know why. If someone can show mathematically why this is, that'd be splendid. Thank you.

It is motion with constant acceleration. How is the displacement related to time?

 

[Jeven]

What do you exactly mean by the time taken for it to bounce? Is it the time taken for it to reach to the ground or to reach the ground and bounce a few times and stop due to loss of energy?

I am sorry I forgot to add that the time is the time taken for it to bounce 5 times.

 

[Guneykan Ozgul]

I am sorry I forgot to add that the time is the time taken for it to bounce 5 times.

Okay. Now, let's say that acceleration is constant a . Now the velocity at time t will be at. Then the displacement d=∫atdt=1/2at^2 assuming that the initial position is 0.
Now let's say that the ball hits the ground and the energy of the ball reduces to bE where E is the energy of the ball before it hits the ground and b is a some arbitrary constant. Now the particle will go to 1/b of initial height then the time will be √(1/b) of the time it takes to hit the ground. So if you do this 5 times you will find the total time. If b is 1, that is ball does not lose energy when it hits the ground you will get directly get only quadratic term since d is proportional to square of t. If b is bigger than 1, still the leading term will be square of t. So it is a quadratic.
Hope this is helpful.

 

[Jeven]

Okay. Now, let's say that acceleration is constant a . Now the velocity at time t will be at. Then the displacement d=∫atdt=1/2at^2 assuming that the initial position is 0.
Now let's say that the ball hits the ground and the energy of the ball reduces to bE where E is the energy of the ball before it hits the ground and b is a some arbitrary constant. Now the particle will go to 1/b of initial height then the time will be √(1/b) of the time it takes to hit the ground. So if you do this 5 times you will find the total time. If b is 1, that is ball does not lose energy when it hits the ground you will get directly get only quadratic term since d is proportional to square of t. If b is bigger than 1, still the leading term will be square of t. So it is a quadratic.
Hope this is helpful.

Yes it is thank you. But I don't quite understand the (1/b) part, why would that be the energy? And what would I do to make this function a linear function? Because I need to graph a straight line.

 

[Guneykan Ozgul]

Mathematically to make the the time taken for the ball hit the surface a linear function of displacement you should make velecity constant, hence 0 acceleration. For a free fall, http://www.effectsmeister.com/physi...t - guidance/files/pdf/investigation01_en.pdf may be useful.

 

[Belovedcritic]

Okay. Now, let's say that acceleration is constant a . Now the velocity at time t will be at. Then the displacement d=∫atdt=1/2at^2 assuming that the initial position is 0.
Now let's say that the ball hits the ground and the energy of the ball reduces to bE where E is the energy of the ball before it hits the ground and b is a some arbitrary constant. Now the particle will go to 1/b of initial height then the time will be √(1/b) of the time it takes to hit the ground. So if you do this 5 times you will find the total time. If b is 1, that is ball does not lose energy when it hits the ground you will get directly get only quadratic term since d is proportional to square of t. If b is bigger than 1, still the leading term will be square of t. So it is a quadratic.
Hope this is helpful.

if b is the coefficient of restitution, COR, which is less than 1,then why would it go to 1/b of the initial height, meaning it would surpass the initial height since 1/COR>1 ?? I see you know your stuff so I must be at a loss here so could you please explain your meaning :)

 

[mastrofoffi]

if b is the coefficient of restitution, COR, which is less than 1,then why would it go to 1/b of the initial height, meaning it would surpass the initial height since 1/COR>1 ?? I see you know your stuff so I must be at a loss here so could you please explain your meaning :)

He just made some little confusion I guess.
If the energy of the ball at the initial peak h_0 is E_0 = mgh_0, after the bounce you'll have, again at the peak, E_1 = bE_0 = mgbh_0, so h_1=bh_0.