Fundamental groups and arcwise connected spaces.

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Arcwise connected spaces have isomorphic fundamental groups for any two points within the space, allowing identification of these groups with their equivalence class. The discussion explores the existence of significant spaces that are not arcwise connected, noting that any Hausdorff space that is not path-connected is also not arc-connected. The Topologist's Sine Curve is mentioned as a notable counterexample, though its importance is debated, with some participants questioning its relevance in algebraic topology. The conversation highlights the need for clarity on what constitutes an "important" space, with references to topological manifolds and rational numbers as examples. Overall, the discussion emphasizes the relationship between arcwise connectivity and fundamental groups while questioning the significance of certain topological spaces.
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If a space X is arcwise connected, then for any two points p and q in X the fundamental groups ##\pi_1(X,p)## and ##\pi_1(X,q)## are isomorphic. This means that we can, up to isomorphisms, identify both groups with their equivalence class ##\pi_1(X)##.

I started to think about the generality of this theorem. Is there any interesting/important spaces which are not arcwise connected except for the union of two disjoint spaces etc?
 
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center o bass said:
If a space X is arcwise connected, then for any two points p and q in X the fundamental groups ##\pi_1(X,p)## and ##\pi_1(X,q)## are isomorphic. This means that we can, up to isomorphisms, identify both groups with their equivalence class ##\pi_1(X)##.

I started to think about the generality of this theorem. Is there any interesting/important spaces which are not arcwise connected except for the union of two disjoint spaces etc?
Any Hausdorff space that is not path-connected is also not arc-connected. Therefore, the so-called "Topologist's Sine Curve," a relatively important topological space, is not arc-connected.
 
Mandelbroth said:
Any Hausdorff space that is not path-connected is also not arc-connected. Therefore, the so-called "Topologist's Sine Curve," a relatively important topological space, is not arc-connected.

It's not a relatively important topological space, since it serves more as a counterexample than as something worth studying on its own. Sure, it's a nice and important counterexample, but that's it. It's not a topological space central to algebraic topology like topological manifolds.
 
micromass said:
It's not a relatively important topological space, since it serves more as a counterexample than as something worth studying on its own. Sure, it's a nice and important counterexample, but that's it. It's not a topological space central to algebraic topology like topological manifolds.
Meh. It was the first Hausdorff space that isn't path-connected that came to mind. :rolleyes:

I have to agree with micro, though. It isn't important itself. Come to think of it, off the top of my head, I can't think of any particularly "important" spaces that are not arc-connected.

As a side note, topological manifolds are locally arc-connected (since they are Hausdorff and locally path-connected).
 
what is the definition of "important"? what about the rational numbers? some people think they are important. we need more details to answer this, i think.
 

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