Fundamental Period of f(t) = sin(6t) + cos(8t)

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The problem involves determining the fundamental period of the function f(t) = sin(6t) + cos(8t), focusing on the periodic nature of the sine and cosine components.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the individual periods of the sine and cosine functions, with attempts to find a common period for the combined function. Questions arise about the correct common denominator and how to mathematically derive the fundamental period.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the periods and how to find the least common multiple. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the periods of the components and the overall function.

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There is some confusion regarding the calculation of the common denominator and the application of the fundamental period formula. Participants are also reflecting on the clarity of the assistance provided in the thread.

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Homework Statement



Let f(t) = sin(6t) + cos(8t).
(a) What is the fundamental period of f(t)?

T= 2pi/\omega

I know the fund. period of sin is pi/3 and cos is pi/4,

and the definition of fundamental period saids that f(t + T ) = f(t)

for the smallest T in the function, so would pi/4 be my answer?
 
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Do you know the fundamental period of each of the two terms? If so, let's call them Ts and Tc. If you imagine a plot of the two terms (or of f(t)), then if you mark the two times repeatedly along the time axis you must know find the smallest time T where there is both a Ts and a Tc mark. Another hint may be to think of this as a problem of finding a common denominator.
 
hmm k so if i find the common denominator, it would be 12 correct?
 
I understand what you mean, that we want to find a period where we can say the function f(t) is periodic not just each component, so where sin and cos both begin and end, but I can't see how I would find the period mathematically.
 
The common denominator for 6 and 8 is not 12, but ... ?
 
Filip Larsen said:
The common denominator for 6 and 8 is not 12, but ... ?
for 6 and 8 is 1?,

but i thought we would put it in the formula for a period which is T = 2pi/frequency, and doing so i would get pi/3 and pi/4
 
My mistake for being imprecise with the 6 and 8.

You are quite right that you need to write up the period of the two terms, like Ts = 2pi/6 = pi/3, and I guess when you said 12 you meant T = pi/12.[STRIKE] In that case you are on the right track and just need to convert that period back to a frequency[/STRIKE].

Later: *sigh* I think I better not mix work and homework assistance in the future.

If you have the two periods as pi/3 and pi/4, you need to find the least time T that is an integral number of those two.
 
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I'm a bit unhappy about having provided such confusing help, so I hope the homework is either done by now or that I do not spoil it too much by revealing the general method to calculate this.

Given a set of real functions fi such that each function has the fundamental period S (for cos and sin, S would be 2pi), the sum of these functions

(1) f(t) = \sum_i a_i f_i(S\frac{n_i}{d_i}t + p_i)

where ni and di are natural numbers and ai <> 0 and pi are arbitrary constants, then has the fundamental period of

(2) T = S\; lcm(\frac{n_i}{d_i})

where lcm is the least common multiple of all the fractions n_i/d_i. To calculate lcm of fractions one can use the method of decomposing them into prime products with negative powers, as described in [1].

In the case given above we have S = 2pi, n1 = n2 = 1, d1 = 6 and d2 = 8, which gives T = 2pi lcm(1/6,1/8) = 2pi lcm(2-13-1,2-330) = 2pi 2-130 = 2pi 1/2 = pi. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Least_common_multiple##Fundamental_theorem_of_arithmetic
 

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