Fundamental Theorem of Calculus - Variables x and t

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The discussion revolves around the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus, specifically addressing the use of variables in integrals and the relationship between the variables x and t. Participants explore the implications of integrating with respect to different variables and the conceptual understanding of dummy variables in calculus.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the notation of integrals, particularly the use of x and t, and questions the relationship between these variables in the context of the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus.
  • Another participant suggests that t is merely a renaming of x, indicating that the formula remains unchanged regardless of the variable used.
  • A different participant clarifies that t is a dummy variable in the integral, which can be replaced with any other variable without affecting the outcome, similar to changing indices in summation.
  • One participant emphasizes the overarching principle that differentiation and integration are inverse operations, although this point does not directly address the variable confusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the interpretation of the variables x and t, with some asserting that they are interchangeable while others highlight the importance of understanding dummy variables. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these interpretations.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of consensus on the significance of variable naming in integrals and the implications for understanding the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. The discussion does not fully explore the mathematical nuances of variable dependence or the formal definitions involved.

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Hello, I'm getting slightly confused by the following so was hoping someone may be able to clear my problem up.

For integrals, if b is the upper limit and a is the lower limit, I will write ∫[b,a].

From the Fundamental Theorem of calculus part 1 we can show that:

if
F(x) = ∫[x,a] f(t)dt
then
F'(x) = f(x)
where F'(x) is the derivative of F(x) with respect to x
I understand the proof so will not detail.

From this, we can deduce part 2, that:

if
G(x) is any anti-derivative of f(x)
then
∫[b,a] f(t)dt = G(b)-G(a) = G(x) (evaluated at b) - G(x) (evaluated at a)
I understand the proof here also.

However, what I don't understand is that part 2 is actually written:

∫[b,a] f(x)dx = G(b)-G(a)

This notation suggests that integrating with respect to the x, being the term after the integrand is acceptable. However, we actually obtain the proof by finding the anti-derivative w.r.t. x when x was the upper limit in the summation.

My question is - what is the step that seems to be missing seeing as in the second law we actually integrate with respect to what was previously denoted as t? I understand that x and t are two different variables but they are obviously closely related - is it a case that t is dependent on x? If we can integrate w.r.t. either x or t surely they are equal and vary on a 1 to 1 ratio?

Thanks for the help,

James
 
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I'm going to say, there was no variable t, t was just a new name for x. You were always using x. The formula f(t) was just the formula f(x) with x renamed to t, no substitution was made.

Or I suppose one could say, t is a variable with exactly the same rate of change as x. I don't think it matters really, the formula is the same. I much prefer thinking of it as just a name change.
 
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In \int_a^b f(t)dt, t is a dummy variable. It does not appear in the final result so it can be changed at will: \int_a^b f(t)dt= \int_a^b f(x)dx= \int_a^b f(y)dy, etc.

This is the same as the "dummy index" in a sum: \sum_{n=0}^5 n^2= \sum_{j=0}^5 j^2 because they are both equal to 0^2+ 1^2+ 2^2+ 3^2+ 4^2+ 5^2= 0+ 1+ 4+ 9+ 16+ 25= 55.
 
Be sure not to lose the forrest for the trees ...

The Fundamental Theorem's meaning is that
Differentiation and Integration are Inverse Functions/Operations
 
Thanks for the responses Verty, HallsofIvy and Paulfr
 

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