Funding Your Physics PhD: How Much Does It Cost?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the financial aspects of pursuing a PhD in physics, particularly focusing on the costs associated with tuition and living expenses. Participants explore the funding structures of various graduate programs, the experiences of students, and the potential financial burdens faced by some individuals.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that pursuing a PhD in physics typically incurs no tuition costs, as programs often provide full tuition scholarships and stipends for teaching or research assistantships.
  • Others highlight that not all institutions guarantee funding for all students, particularly smaller schools or those with fewer resources, which may require some students to pay for their first years.
  • A participant shares a personal experience of having to pay for a portion of their graduate education due to funding issues, suggesting that financial support can vary significantly among students and programs.
  • Concerns are raised about the financial implications for international students, who may face different funding circumstances compared to domestic students.
  • Some participants express surprise at the notion that students might have to pay for their education, indicating a belief that most programs are well-funded and provide adequate support.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the availability and reliability of funding for PhD students in physics. Some assert that funding is generally sufficient, while others point out exceptions and potential financial challenges.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of financial support, differences in institutional policies, and the potential impact of individual circumstances such as international status or program size on funding availability.

Who May Find This Useful

Prospective physics graduate students, current students considering funding options, and individuals interested in the financial aspects of higher education in STEM fields may find this discussion relevant.

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How much money do you have to spend doing a Phd (physics)?
 
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$0.000 You don't pay to get a PhD.
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
$0.000 You don't pay to get a PhD.
Please can you explain me.
 
Robert Mak said:
Please can you explain me.
You can only be awarded such a title, that is what he means.
 
Physics graduate students in the USA usually also work for their university as teaching assistants or research assistants. The university pays them enough to cover tuition and fees, and live a minimal lifestyle. When I was a graduate student thirty years ago, I shared an apartment with another grad student, did not own a car, and did not have an expensive social life. That left me enough money to buy a few records every month, travel to visit my parents a few times a year, and even visit Europe a couple of times.
 
Robert Mak said:
How much money do you have to spend doing a Phd (physics)?

Robert, assuming you're talking about tuition, typically a physics PhD costs absolutely nothing, at least in terms of money. Virtually every PhD program in America (and I would guess Europe as well) actually pays you to get your PhD. When you gain admission to a PhD program, most schools will give you a full tuition scholarship with the graduate college. They'll also appoint you as a TA for your first two years, during which you'll get paid something on the order of $15,000 for nine months of teaching. You'll also get paid for your summer research. After your first two years, you'll be appointed as a research assistant. I've seen universities where the graduate college doesn't give you a tuition scholarship, but those schools pay their TAs a higher salary so as to fully offset it. I guess that tuition scholarship vs. additional TA pay is just a question of paperwork. I don't know a single physics PhD student who has ever had to pay his own tuition.

Of course as I hinted above, money isn't the only thing to consider. As those on this forum who've completed their PhDs are fond of saying, it's an extremely arduous path, and you've got to work pretty hard. But if money is the only issue, then rest assured that you won't pay a penny to complete your PhD. Which is somewhat of a relief to people like me, who are just starting their PhDs.
 
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Note that not all schools support all of their physics graduate students. While schools such as Stanford automatically assumes that you will need assistantship when you apply for admission, other smaller schools (especially if they don't have huge endowments) do not automatically give you that, especially before you pass your qualifier. So there's a chance that you may have to pay for your first or second year of grad school, especially if you're an international student.

But after your qualifier, practically every physics graduate students are supported by some form of assistantship. So your 5 to 6 years of Ph.D program may cost significantly less (or none) when compared to your undergraduate cost.

Zz.
 
ZapperZ said:
So there's a chance that you may have to pay for your first or second year of grad school, especially if you're an international student.
Zz.

Im afraid of that.
So how much do you think i had to pay in average?
 
I haven't heard of anyone having to pay for a Phd in science. In my case, I would not have considered any graduate school that didn't offer full support.
 
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After I worked on my dissertation for about 3 years, the govt agency who funded the work decided to not renew the contract any further so I went out and got part-time jobs and worked on finishing my research on my nickle. After working in industry for a while, they let me go because of budget cuts and I was hurting financially. My saving grace was that the department chair was short of TA's and I spent the final year of my time in grad school teaching freshman lab.

All in all, I paid for about 1/3 of my graduate education out of my pocket.
 
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Wow, I admit that I'm extremely surprised to hear that there are people who've had to pay for grad school. All the programs I applied to said that they were very well-funded, and that all of their grad students were supported by teaching or research assistantships. Have things gotten better in the past few years, or something?
 

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