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Gabrielle's calculus question involves determining the speed at which the tip of a shadow moves as a man walks away from a street light. The problem uses similar triangles to derive a formula relating the height of the pole, the man's height, and their distances. By differentiating the formula with respect to time, the rate of change of the shadow's length is calculated. The final result shows that the tip of the shadow moves at approximately 11.304 feet per second. This solution emphasizes the application of related rates in calculus.
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This is a calculus I question in the section about related rates.?

This is a calculus I question in the section about related rates.
A street light is at the top of a 13.000 ft. tall pole. A man 6.100 ft tall walks away from the pole with a speed of 6.000 feet/sec along a straight path. How fast is the tip of his shadow moving when he is 33.000 feet from the pole?

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Hello Gabrielle,

I like to work problems like this in general terms, derive a formula, then plug in the given data at the end. First let's draw a diagram. $L$ represents the height of the light pole, $M$ represents the height of the man, $x$ represents the distance of the man from the pole, and $s$ represents the length of the man's shadow:

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By similarity, we may state:

$$\frac{L}{x+s}=\frac{M}{s}$$

Cross-multiply:

$$Ls=M(x+s)$$

Solve for $s$:

$$(L-M)s=Mx$$

$$s=\frac{M}{L-M}x$$

Now, differentiate with respect to time $t$:

$$\frac{ds}{dt}=\frac{M}{L-M}\cdot\frac{dx}{dt}$$

This is the rate of growth of the length of the shadow. To find how fast the tip $T$ of the shadow is changing, we need to add $$\frac{dx}{dt}$$ as this growth is relative to the man's position:

$$\frac{dT}{dt}=\frac{M}{L-M}\cdot \frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{dx}{dt}= \frac{dx}{dt}\left(\frac{M}{L-M}+1 \right)= \frac{dx}{dt}\cdot\frac{L}{L-M}$$

We see that this is constant, i.e., it does not depend on how far the man is from the pole. So, plugging in the given data, we find:

$$\frac{dT}{dt}=\left(6\,\frac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}} \right)\left(\frac{13\text{ ft}}{(13-6.1)\text{ ft}} \right)=\frac{260}{23}\,\frac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}}$$

Since the given data is accurate to 3 decimal places, we round the final result to:

$$\frac{dT}{dt}\approx11.304\,\frac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}}$$

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Best Regards,

Mark.
 
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