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The discussion centers on solving a related rates problem involving a street light and a man walking away from it. The height of the pole is 13.000 ft, and the man is 6.100 ft tall, walking at a speed of 6.000 ft/sec. The formula derived shows that the speed of the tip of the man's shadow is approximately 11.304 ft/sec, calculated using the relationship between the heights and distances involved. The final formula used is dT/dt = (dx/dt) * (L / (L - M)), where L is the height of the pole and M is the height of the man.

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Here is the question:

This is a calculus I question in the section about related rates.?

This is a calculus I question in the section about related rates.
A street light is at the top of a 13.000 ft. tall pole. A man 6.100 ft tall walks away from the pole with a speed of 6.000 feet/sec along a straight path. How fast is the tip of his shadow moving when he is 33.000 feet from the pole?

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Hello Gabrielle,

I like to work problems like this in general terms, derive a formula, then plug in the given data at the end. First let's draw a diagram. $L$ represents the height of the light pole, $M$ represents the height of the man, $x$ represents the distance of the man from the pole, and $s$ represents the length of the man's shadow:

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By similarity, we may state:

$$\frac{L}{x+s}=\frac{M}{s}$$

Cross-multiply:

$$Ls=M(x+s)$$

Solve for $s$:

$$(L-M)s=Mx$$

$$s=\frac{M}{L-M}x$$

Now, differentiate with respect to time $t$:

$$\frac{ds}{dt}=\frac{M}{L-M}\cdot\frac{dx}{dt}$$

This is the rate of growth of the length of the shadow. To find how fast the tip $T$ of the shadow is changing, we need to add $$\frac{dx}{dt}$$ as this growth is relative to the man's position:

$$\frac{dT}{dt}=\frac{M}{L-M}\cdot \frac{dx}{dt}+\frac{dx}{dt}= \frac{dx}{dt}\left(\frac{M}{L-M}+1 \right)= \frac{dx}{dt}\cdot\frac{L}{L-M}$$

We see that this is constant, i.e., it does not depend on how far the man is from the pole. So, plugging in the given data, we find:

$$\frac{dT}{dt}=\left(6\,\frac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}} \right)\left(\frac{13\text{ ft}}{(13-6.1)\text{ ft}} \right)=\frac{260}{23}\,\frac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}}$$

Since the given data is accurate to 3 decimal places, we round the final result to:

$$\frac{dT}{dt}\approx11.304\,\frac{\text{ft}}{\text{s}}$$

To Gabrielle and any other guests viewing this topic, I invite and encourage you to post other related rates problems in our http://www.mathhelpboards.com/f10/ forum.

Best Regards,

Mark.
 

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