Gas laws concerning pressure & temp.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving gas laws, specifically focusing on the relationship between pressure and temperature in an aerosol can. Participants explore the application of relevant gas laws to determine the pressure change when the temperature is increased.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a problem involving an aerosol can with a given initial pressure and temperature, seeking guidance on how to proceed with the calculations.
  • Another participant suggests using the Ideal Gas Law as a potential approach to the problem.
  • A different participant mentions that they found Gay-Lussac's Law, which relates pressure and temperature, and claims to have calculated a pressure of 4.76 atm based on this law.
  • Further elaboration is provided on the derivation of Gay-Lussac's Law from the Ideal Gas Law, emphasizing the constancy of volume and the number of moles in the can during the process.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to solve the problem, with different methods being proposed and utilized. There is no clear agreement on the final pressure value, as calculations vary among participants.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the initial conditions and the application of the gas laws, particularly in relation to the constants involved in the equations.

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Homework Statement


Suppose an aerosol can contains a residual pressure of 755mm Hg and a temperature of 25*c. What would the pressure be if the can was heated to 1155*c?


Homework Equations



P1xV1=P2xV2

V\proptoT



The Attempt at a Solution



I began by converting the 755mm Hg to atm, .993atm. I then converted the temperatures to 298 kelvins & 1428 kelvins. I honestly do not know where to take this problem from here. The above equations I gave deal with temperature & pressure separately so I need to find some way of combining them. All I need is a nudge, I can take it from there. Thanks in advance.

Joe
 
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I originally tried that one but I am missing both V & n, volume & number of moles. I looked a little deeper and my book and found Gay-Lussac's Law, \frac{P_{1}}{T_{1}}=\frac{P_{2}}{T_{2}}. Using simple algebra I got 4.76 ATM. Thanks for your help.
 
Agent M27 said:
I originally tried that one but I am missing both V & n, volume & number of moles. I looked a little deeper and my book and found Gay-Lussac's Law, \frac{P_{1}}{T_{1}}=\frac{P_{2}}{T_{2}}. Using simple algebra I got 4.76 ATM. Thanks for your help.

You can deduce that equality from the ideal gas law, because the gas is in a can that you can consider as a body that doesn't expand or contract, and so the volume is constant, on the other hand the quantity of gas in the can also remains constant (you didn't let any gas in or out). So, PV=nrT <=> P/T=nr/V=cte and you get the Gay-Lussac's Law.

This law is very general, you don't need to memorize all the possible combinations, just consider every constraint (V,T,n,P) and see how it varies in the process, if some of them remain constant, then all the others can be calculated from the initial and final conditions.

Glad to help.
 

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