Why does the gas with the smallest molar mass have the highest pressure?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between molar mass and gas pressure, specifically in the context of a homework problem involving equal masses of Xenon, Argon, and Neon placed in separate flasks. Participants explore the implications of molar mass on the number of moles and subsequently on pressure, referencing the ideal gas law.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that Neon has the highest pressure due to its smallest molar mass, leading to the greatest number of moles when equal masses are considered.
  • Another participant uses an analogy comparing different sized balls to illustrate that equal masses of lighter objects yield more units than heavier ones.
  • A participant introduces the ideal gas law and derives the relationship between pressure and molar mass, stating that the gas with the smallest molar mass will have the highest pressure.
  • There is a discussion regarding notation conventions for molar mass and gas mass, with some participants expressing uncertainty about the accepted conventions.
  • One participant acknowledges the correctness of another's explanation regarding the ideal gas law and its application to the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relationship between molar mass and pressure as described by the ideal gas law, but there is no consensus on the notation conventions used for mass and molar mass.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that their understanding of notation may differ from standard conventions, indicating potential confusion or variability in how these concepts are typically presented.

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Homework Statement


If equal masses of Xenon, Argon and Neon are placed in separate flasks of equal volume and same temperature, which one of the following statements is correct:
a) The pressure of Neon flask is greatest.
b) The pressure of Argon flask is greatest.
c) The pressure of Xenon flask is greatest.
d) The pressure in all 3 flasks is the same.

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


The answer stated was Neon because it contains the smallest molar mass out of the three. The smallest molar mass will contain the greatest number of moles. Since pressure is directly proportional to the number of moles in a gas, the pressure of Neon flask is the greatest.

I know that the pressure is directly proportional to the number of moles. But why does the smallest molar mass contain the greatest number of moles?
 
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Because it says equal masses of each gas are in the flask. If you have two piles with the same mass, and one pile consists of bowling balls and one consists of ping-pong balls, which pile has more balls?
 
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Ping-pong balls! Thank you for the wonderful analogy. It makes perfect sense now.
 
codcodo said:

Homework Equations


None
Just to point out that there is a relevant equation. The ideal gas law ##PV = RnT##. You can rewrite this as
$$
P = \frac{RnT}{V}.
$$
Since ##n = M/m##, where ##m## is the molar mass and ##M## is the total mass, you would find
$$
P = \frac{RMT}{V} \frac{1}{m}.
$$
Since ##R##, ##M##, ##T##, and ##V## were assumed to be the same, the gas with the smallest molar mass ##m## will have the highest pressure.
 
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Orodruin said:
Since ##n = M/m##, where ##m## is the molar mass and ##M## is the total mass

Funny, I would switch M and m (using the capital letter to mark molar mass and the small one for the gas mass). I feel like it is an accepted convention (but I can be wrong).
 
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Borek said:
Funny, I would switch M and m (using the capital letter to mark molar mass and the small one for the gas mass). I feel like it is an accepted convention (but I can be wrong).
That may be, it is not my direct field so I may have introduced conventions contrary to what is usually used. Of course, the notation has no impact on the physics.
 
@Orodruin Sure thing, what you wrote is perfectly correct. Actually I thought about posting exactly the same, just assumed OP already got it.
 
Borek said:
Funny, I would switch M and m (using the capital letter to mark molar mass and the small one for the gas mass). I feel like it is an accepted convention (but I can be wrong).

I use M for molar mass and m for gas mass.
 
Orodruin said:
Just to point out that there is a relevant equation. The ideal gas law ##PV = RnT##. You can rewrite this as
$$
P = \frac{RnT}{V}.
$$
Since ##n = M/m##, where ##m## is the molar mass and ##M## is the total mass, you would find
$$
P = \frac{RMT}{V} \frac{1}{m}.
$$
Since ##R##, ##M##, ##T##, and ##V## were assumed to be the same, the gas with the smallest molar mass ##m## will have the highest pressure.
Thank you.
 

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