Gasoline engine modification - ethanol fuel

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The discussion focuses on modifying a Suzuki DR125S motorcycle engine to run on ethanol fuel, specifically a blend of 85% ethanol. Key modifications include cleaning the fuel system to combat ethanol's corrosive properties, increasing the carburetor jet diameter for a richer fuel mixture, raising the compression ratio to leverage ethanol's high octane rating, and advancing ignition timing with a hotter spark plug to accommodate ethanol's unique combustion characteristics. Participants also explore the ignition system's mechanics, particularly the CDI system, and the challenges of adjusting the timing curve for optimal performance.

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  • Understanding of ethanol fuel properties and its combustion characteristics
  • Familiarity with motorcycle engine mechanics, specifically the Suzuki DR125S
  • Knowledge of carburetor tuning and modifications
  • Basic principles of ignition systems, particularly CDI systems
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  • Research the chemical properties of ethanol and its combustion behavior compared to gasoline
  • Learn about carburetor jet sizing and tuning for ethanol fuel
  • Investigate methods for adjusting ignition timing curves in CDI systems
  • Explore the effects of compression ratio changes on engine performance with ethanol
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Hi guys,

Im doing a group project on a conversion of a small motorcycle engine(suzuki dr125s) so that it can run on ethanol(have not decide on what proportion, maybe going to run it at 85% or more). The modifications and the reasons behind it :

1) Cleaning/changing the fuel tank,filter,gaskets and tubes - Because of the corrosive nature of alcohol.
2) Increasing the carburetor's jet diameter, add weight to float - Increasing jet diameter to make the mixture more richer because stoichiometric value of alcohol(9:1) is is lower compare with petrol. The weight of the float needs to be added because alcohol is more denser than petrol.
3) Increase compression ratio - Because ethanol+petrol = high octane number enables high compression ratio.
4) Advancing the ignition timing and change to a hotter spark plug - "Alcohol burns at a much more even rate. It is harder to ignite and requires more time to completely vaporize and burn."

First question :

On the modifications of the ignition system, I've got it from a website :

http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_drane.html

Can anybody tell me what chemical properties of ethanol that makes the burning rate of alcohol different from petrol or why is it hard to ignite and needs more time to vaporise and burn?

Second question :

This motorcycle uses a magneto+CDI system. From what i understand,as the flywheel is rotating(the rotor on the magneto assembly will rotate too) a magnetic strip on the rotor will excite the pulser coil and signals will go into the CDI module.The capacitor in the CDI block will discharge 150-300volts into the primary coil(part of the ignition coil) .This will create an output of about 20000volts from the secondary coil to power the spark plug. Altering the position of the pulser coil to advance or retard ignition timing is easy but i don't have any idea change the timing curve for a CDI system. Does anyone have any idea on how to do it?
 
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I stand to be corrected, but I don't think the rate of combustion of alcohol is the reason it's harder to ignite; I imagine it's just because petrol vapourises more readily. This sometimes necessitates things like fuel pre-heaters, or (as you alluded to) hotter spark plugs.

The primary reason to advance the timing would be to take advantage of the wider knock margin you'd experience with alcohol over that of petrol.

I have no idea about your CDI system, but anything which advances the pulser coil will do the trick nicely.
 

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