Gauge invariance of momentum of charged particle

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The discussion revolves around the gauge invariance of the momentum of a charged particle in the presence of a magnetic field. Participants explore the definitions of momentum, specifically the canonical and kinematic momentum, and their implications in classical and quantum mechanics. The conversation touches on theoretical aspects, mathematical reasoning, and the implications of gauge transformations.

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  • One participant notes that the momentum of a charged particle changes from ##p_{i}## to ##\pi_{i}\equiv p_{i}+eA_{i}## in a magnetic field and questions the gauge invariance of this definition.
  • Another participant raises a question about the sign in the expression involving the charge and vector potential.
  • A participant claims that the kinematic momentum ##\tilde{\pi}_{i}=p_{i}-eA_{i}## is gauge invariant, suggesting that gauge-dependent pieces cancel out.
  • Discussion includes a classical mechanics perspective, starting from the Lagrangian for a particle in an electromagnetic field, leading to the conclusion that the canonical momentum is gauge dependent.
  • Participants discuss the gauge invariance of the equation of motion derived from the Lagrangian, emphasizing that the physical outcomes remain gauge independent.
  • One participant challenges the notion that two wave functions differing by a phase factor represent the same quantum state, questioning the definition of "ray" in Hilbert space.
  • Another participant clarifies that multiplication by a space-time dependent phase factor does not alter the physics described by the wave function, while addressing the validity of using generalized eigenfunctions in the context of quantum states.

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Participants express differing views on the gauge invariance of momentum definitions and the implications of phase factors in wave functions. There is no consensus on whether the definitions and transformations discussed are universally accepted as gauge invariant.

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Participants highlight the dependence of certain arguments on the definitions used, the nature of wave functions, and the mathematical treatment of generalized eigenstates. The discussion remains open to interpretation and further exploration.

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I know that, in the presence of a magnetic field, the momentum of a charge particle changes from ##p_{i}## to ##\pi_{i}\equiv p_{i}+eA_{i}##, where ##e## is the charge of the particle.

I was wondering if this definition of momentum is gauge-invariant?

How about ##\tilde{\pi}_{i}=p_{i}-eA_{i}##?
 
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Well, what do you think about the value of that sign just before the "e"?
 
The second one is gauge invariant (kinematic momentum). You want the gauge dependent pieces to cancel, one which you get from the transformation of A and the other from the derivative piece (the canonical momentum p). This is just the spatial component of the covariant derivative.
 
Let's first understand the issue from the point of view of classical mechanics. For simplicity I consider the non-relativistic limit. You start from the Lagrangian for a particle subject to an electromagnetic field described by a scalar potential ##\Phi## and a vector potential ##\vec{A}##. The Lagrangian reads
$$L=\frac{m}{2} \dot{\vec{x}}^2-\frac{q}{c} (c \Phi-\dot{\vec{x}} \cdot \vec{A}).$$
The canonical momentum is
$$\vec{\pi}=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \dot{\vec{x}}}=m\dot{\vec{x}} + \frac{q}{c} \vec{A},$$
and this is clearly gauge dependent.

The equation of motion is, of course not gauge dependent since
$$\dot{\vec{\pi}}=m \ddot{\vec{x}} + \frac{q}{c} [\partial_t \vec{A}+(\dot{\vec{x}} \cdot \vec{\nabla}) \vec{A}]=\frac{\partial L}{\partial \vec{x}} = - q \vec{\nabla} \Phi +\frac{q}{c} \vec{\nabla}(\dot{\vec{x}} \cdot \vec{A}).$$
It's easy to see, using
$$\vec{E}=-\vec{\nabla} \Phi-\frac{1}{c} \partial_t \vec{A}, \quad \vec{B}=\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{A},$$
that everything combines to the gauge-invariant well-known equation of motion
$$m\ddot{\vec{x}}=q \left (\vec{E}+\frac{\vec{v}}{c} \times \vec{B} \right).$$
The Hamiltonian reads
$$H=\dot{\vec{x}} \cdot \vec{\pi}-L=\frac{1}{2m} \left (\vec{\pi}-\frac{q}{c} \vec{A} \right)^2+q \Phi.$$
To quantize this in the position representation, we have to realize the canonical (!) momentum as the gradient operator since it's the canonical momentum that generates spatial translations, i.e., we have
$$\hat{\vec{\pi}}=-\hbar \mathrm{i} \vec{\nabla}$$
and thus the Hamiltonian reads
$$\hat{H}=\frac{1}{2m} \hat{D}^2+q \Phi.$$
Here
$$\hat{D}=-\mathrm{i} \hbar \vec{\nabla}-\frac{q}{c} \vec{A}.$$
Now the time-dependent Schrödinger equation reads
$$\mathrm{i} \hbar \partial_t \psi=\hat{H} \psi.$$
We now check what happens under gauge transformations,
$$\vec{A}'=\vec{A}+\vec{\nabla \chi}, \quad \Phi'=\Phi-\frac{1}{c} \partial_t \chi.$$
Now we can define also a new wave function, which just changes by a phase factor. The right choice is
$$\psi'=\exp \left (\frac{\mathrm{i} q}{\hbar c} \chi \right) \psi.$$
Then we find
$$\hat{D}' \psi'=\exp \left (\frac{\mathrm{i} q}{\hbar c} \chi \right) \hat{D} \psi.$$
So we find that if ##\psi## obeys the time-dependent Schrödinger equation with the electromagnetic potentials ##\Phi## and ##\vec{A}## then ##\psi'## obeys the time-dependent Schrödinger equation with the electromagnetic potentials ##\Phi'## and ##\vec{A}'##. Since ##\psi## and ##\psi'## differ just by a phase factor, both represent the same states, since only the ray in Hilbert space determines already the quantum state not the wave function itself. Indeed the only physical content of the wave function is the probability distribution for position, which is ##|\psi|^2=|\psi'|^2##, doesn't depend on ##\chi## and thus is gauge invariant.

So the physical outcome of the quantum-theoretical formalism is gauge independent, as it should be.
 
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vanhees71 said:
Since ##\psi## and ##\psi'## differ just by a phase factor, both represent the same states, since only the ray in Hilbert space determines already the quantum state not the wave function itself.

I thought that two states \psi and \psi' represent the same state if one is a CONSTANT multiple of the other. In this case, the phase e^{i \frac{q}{\hbar c} \chi} is a function of position and time, so \psi and \psi' aren't constant multiples of each other.

If the definition of "ray" allows for non-constant multiples, then it seems like that would mean that the wave function \psi(x) = e^{ikx} is the same state \psi'(x) = e^{i k' x}, where k \neq k'. But those aren't the same state, are they? (Yeah, I know they aren't "states" at all in the Hilbert space of square-integrable functions, but they are states for a particle in a box with periodic boundary conditions).
 
True. I was a bit imprecise in my explanation, but still the point is that multiplication even with a space-time dependent phase factor doesn't change the physics described by this wave function. More precisely, a gauge transformation is a unitary transformation of the operators and wave functions.

Concerning you plane-wave example, you already gave the reason for why this is not a valid argument, because here you consider generalized eigenfunctions of the self-adjoint momentum operator, which are not representing states. If they would, both just describe uniformly distributed position probabilities over the entire infinite position space, but this is not normalizable properly, and thus it's not a wave function that represents a quantum state. For that indeed it must be square-integrable! The purpose of such generalized eigenstates in the continuous spectrum is just the transformation from one to another representation. In your case it's the Fourier transformation between the position and momentum representation,
$$\psi(t,\vec{x})=\frac{1}{(2 \pi \hbar)^{3/2}} \int_{\mathbb{R}^3} \mathrm{d}^3 \vec{p} \exp \left (\frac{\mathrm{i} \vec{p} \cdot \vec{x}}{\hbar} \right) \tilde{\psi}(t,\vec{p}),$$
where ##\tilde{\psi}(t,\vec{p})## is the probability distribution for momentum, i.e., in the representation independent Dirac notation
$$\psi(t,\vec{x})=\langle \vec{x}|\psi(t) \rangle, \quad \tilde{\psi}(t,\vec{p})=\langle \vec{p}|\psi(t) \rangle,$$
where I assume we are working in the Schrödinger picture of time evolution.
 

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