Gene expression-This problem is impossible

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to gene expression and transcription, specifically determining the RNA transcript sequence from a given DNA template strand. Participants explore the implications of directionality in nucleic acid sequences and the potential for confusion in exam settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant initially believes the answer to the transcription problem is D, based on matching base pairs without considering strand directionality.
  • Another participant points out the importance of considering the direction of the strands, suggesting that the original interpretation was incorrect.
  • A later reply clarifies that the correct answer is B, as the participant realizes the need to reverse their initial answer due to the anti-parallel nature of the strands.
  • One participant notes that examiners often use such tricks to test students' understanding of nucleic acid directionality and base pairing rules.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants initially disagree on the correct answer to the transcription problem, but there is a shift towards agreement on the importance of strand directionality and the reasoning behind the correct answer being B. However, the initial confusion and differing interpretations highlight the complexity of the topic.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the clarity of the problem statement and the potential for misinterpretation due to the lack of explicit direction labels. The discussion reflects the challenges students face in understanding transcription processes and the conventions used in biological sequences.

Who May Find This Useful

Students studying molecular biology, particularly those focusing on gene expression and transcription mechanisms, as well as educators looking for examples of common pitfalls in exam questions.

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I was interpreting a question, and it does not fit with my knowledge and common sense.
This is the problem with mystery...:confused:

Part of the sequence of a gene along the template strand for transcription was shown to be 5'-AGCTCA-3'
Using that partial DNA sequence, determine the corresponding sequence of the transcript encoded by that region of the gene.
A)5'-UGCAGU
B)5'-UGAGCU
C)5'-UGACGU
D)5'-UCGAGU

I thought the answer was D. Because in the given sequence in the question and option D fits according to rules [A always matches with T(or U), C always matches with G]
Now, my answer: A fits with U. G fits with C in option D. C fits with G. T fits with A. And so on. If you are suspicious, I can show you.
5'-AGCTCA-3'
5'-UCGAGU
It all fits and make correct strand. I think...

However, the answer was B.



How could this possible? I gathered all my knowledge, contemplated for almost half and hour, thinking how B can be the answer. B does not fit with any of the given strand. Is there something wrong with the answerbook or there is something I did not learned about it?
My prof told students to report any mistakes in the problem-answer sheet he gave to us. However, I feel not willing to go to him and talk about this. What if I am wrong?
 
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Look at the direction of the two strands. :wink:
 
Ah! I get it. The directions are the same.
5'-AGCTCA-3'
5'-UCGAGU
They cannot have same 5' at one side. So the my strand must be reversed.
So, instead of UCGAGU, UGAGCU is the answer(this is reversed form of my answer), which is B.
 
Remember that examiners use this trick many times to confuse students and distinguish the bright from the average. ANY sequence that is given without any labels is ALWAYS READ 5' to 3' no matter what! You cannot violate this law without using appropriate labels.

Another example you might want to work on is deciphering the anticodon on t-RNA for recognition of the mRNA sequence. In a double stranded DNA, both strands are anti-parallel. Remember this also applies to the tRNA vs mRNA base pairing because this essentially is ALSO anti-parallel! Just thought about telling you, because these tricks are commonly used in exams.
 
Thank you so much for your tip. :) How wicked those examiners are!
 

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