General equation for the magnitude of the difference vector

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The discussion revolves around the equations for the magnitude of the difference vector between two vectors, ##\vec{S}## and ##\vec{T}##, particularly in the context of whether the provided equations for parallel and antiparallel vectors are correct. Participants explore the implications of these equations in various scenarios, seeking clarification and confirmation of their understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that if two vectors ##\vec{S}## and ##\vec{T}## are parallel, the magnitude of the difference vector ##\vec{S}-\vec{T}## should be expressed as $$||\vec{S}| - |\vec{T}||$$.
  • Others argue that for antiparallel vectors, the magnitude of the difference vector is $$|\vec{S}| + |\vec{T}|$$.
  • A participant expresses uncertainty about whether the equations provided in a referenced answer are reversed, seeking confirmation of their interpretation.
  • Some participants suggest testing specific cases to validate the equations, indicating a hands-on approach to understanding the problem.
  • There is a back-and-forth regarding the correctness of the original answer, with some participants believing it was incorrect while others maintain that it matched their own understanding.
  • One participant notes that the equations in the original post and a linked Stack Exchange answer appear to be the same, leading to confusion about the correctness of the initial claim.
  • A later reply clarifies that the original answer was edited, which resolved some of the confusion regarding the equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the original equations, with multiple competing views remaining throughout the discussion. Some participants believe the equations were reversed, while others maintain that they were correct as stated.

Contextual Notes

There is a lack of clarity regarding the specific context of the original equations and their application, as well as the assumptions made by participants about the definitions of parallel and antiparallel vectors.

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General equation for the magnitude of the difference vector of two parallel or antiparallel vectors
Hi everyone,

While finding the solution for one of my exercises, I found the following answer. I'm seriously questioning if the equations provided in that answer are reversed. According to my understanding, if two vectors ##\vec{S}## and ##\vec{T}## are parallel (same direction) the magnitude of the difference vector ##\vec{S}-\vec{T}## is:

$$
||\vec{S}| - |\vec{T}||
$$

If the vectors are antiparallel, the magnitude of the difference vector is:
$$
|\vec{S}| + |\vec{T}|
$$

Did the author of that answer wrote the equations in the wrong places or am I missing something?

Thanks.
 
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Sure looks to me like you have it right and he has it reversed from what it should be.
 
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Thanks for the confirmation, phinds.
 
jonander said:
If the vectors are antiparallel, the magnitude of the difference vector is:
$$
|\vec{S}| + |\vec{T}|
$$

For example, in 2D, let ## \vec{S} = \overrightarrow{(1,0)}## and let ##\vec{T} = (-1)(\vec{S}) = \overrightarrow{(-1,0)}##

## \overrightarrow{S-T} = \overrightarrow{(1,0)} - \overrightarrow{(-1,0)} = \overrightarrow{ (2,0)}##.
 
jonander said:
Summary: General equation for the magnitude of the difference vector of two parallel or antiparallel vectors

Hi everyone,

While finding the solution for one of my exercises, I found the following answer. I'm seriously questioning if the equations provided in that answer are reversed. According to my understanding, if two vectors ##\vec{S}## and ##\vec{T}## are parallel (same direction) the magnitude of the difference vector ##\vec{S}-\vec{T}## is:

$$
||\vec{S}| - |\vec{T}||
$$

If the vectors are antiparallel, the magnitude of the difference vector is:
$$
|\vec{S}| + |\vec{T}|
$$

Did the author of that answer wrote the equations in the wrong places or am I missing something?

Thanks.

You could try an example where ##\vec{T} = \vec{S}## (parallel) and ##\vec{T} = - \vec{S}## (anti-parallel).
 
Hi Perok, thanks for replying.

I tried already with a few cases and I'm kind of sure that the author got the equations reversed. I'm asking mostly for confirmation.
 
jonander said:
Hi Perok, thanks for replying.

I tried already with a few cases and I'm kind of sure that the author got the equations reversed. I'm asking mostly for confirmation.

When you say "author", it would help if you said who you were talking about. The page you linked to seemed to be saying what you are saying.
 
jonander said:
I tried already with a few cases and I'm kind of sure that the author got the equations reversed.

You're doing something wrong.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
You're doing something wrong.

He's confused you too. I think he's saying that what is in that page and in his post are correct!
 
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jonander said:
if two vectors ##\vec{S}## and ##\vec{T}## are parallel (same direction) the magnitude of the difference vector ##\vec{S}-\vec{T}## is:

$$
||\vec{S}| - |\vec{T}||
$$

If the vectors are antiparallel, the magnitude of the difference vector is:
$$
|\vec{S}| + |\vec{T}|
$$

Just to be clear. Are you saying this is right or wrong?
 
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I'm saying that the author of this answer, got the equations in the wrong places. And what I wrote in my post is what it should be.
 
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jonander said:
I'm saying that the author of this answer, got the equations in the wrong places. And what I wrote in my post is what it should be.

They look the same to me!
 
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Oh, indeed, they are the same now. It seems that the edition request has been approved.
 
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PeroK said:
They look the same to me!

Me too. To be specific, the formulae in the original post look the same as the formulae given in answer 1 on the stackexchange page.

Answer 1 on https://physics.stackexchange.com/q...nitude-of-the-difference-vector/304644#304644 :

The magnitude of the difference vectors depends on the orientation of S⃗ and T⃗ . If they are parallel then |S⃗ −T⃗ |=||S⃗ |−|T⃗ || and if they are anti-parallel then |S⃗ −T⃗ |=|S⃗ |+|T⃗ |.

Can answers on stackexchange be edited?
 
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Sorry for the confusion guys. I saw that that answer was wrong, asked here for confirmation on my alternative, and, after that, I edited the answer in Stack Overflow.

And, yes! Thankfully, answers in StackExchange can be improved/edited.
 
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