General form vs Standard form of a line

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The discussion revolves around the differences between the General form (Ax + By + C = 0) and Standard form (Ax + By = C) of a line, particularly in the context of calculus and their respective advantages in various applications. Participants explore the utility of these forms in mathematical reasoning, graphing, and calculus-related tasks.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Standard form is more useful for graphing, while others suggest that the slope-intercept form (y = mx + b) is even better for nonvertical lines.
  • One participant argues that the General form has a counterpart for conic sections, which may provide motivation for its use.
  • Another viewpoint emphasizes that the choice of form depends on the specific application, particularly in calculus where the intercept form is highlighted for its relevance to slopes.
  • A participant reflects on their personal experience with the slope-intercept form and acknowledges gaps in their understanding of Standard form due to past educational experiences.
  • One contribution discusses the General form's applicability to n-dimensional linear objects and planes, suggesting its usefulness in higher dimensions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the advantages of each form, indicating that there is no clear consensus on which form is superior or more appropriate for specific contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention limitations in their understanding of the forms, as well as the potential for different forms to be more suitable depending on the mathematical context or application.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals studying calculus, those interested in the applications of different forms of linear equations, and participants looking to deepen their understanding of mathematical concepts related to lines and their representations.

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I'm in the middle of a calculus course (this is not a calculus question per se), studying from the Larson text, and when an answer to a problem is the equation of a line, I solve for Standard form of a line Ax + By = C.

I noticed, however, that the Larson textbook frequently terms answers of the equation of a line in the form Ax + By + C = 0, which apparently is the General form (based on my searching around on line. This answer is frequently the equation of a line tangent to a given point on a curve, if that is of any interest.

What are the advantages of one form over another? Should I be using General when doing calculus for some reason? Thanks!
 
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I don't see much of an advantage for either form over the other. The first form is slightly more useful for graphing, although the slope-intercept form is probably better yet for nonvertical lines.

The second (general) form has a counterpart with terms up through the second degree, for the conic sections, so maybe that's a motivation for this form.

Overall, the distinctions between standard form and general form here aren't very important, IMO.
 
What form is the most appropriate to use depends upon what you want to do with this equation.

if you have two expressions of the type f(x,y) = 0 and g(x,y) = 0 you can equate them directly.

If f(x,y) = a and g(x,y) = b then you cannot do this so easily.

For calculus (and many other purposes) I would think that the intercept form of the line is more useful viz

y = mx + b

Since calculus is about slopes and m is the slope.

go well
 
Thank you both; that sort of makes sense. I always made use of the slope-intercept form (y=mx+b fairly consistently as well. It just seems to be the most useful of all of the forms. Also, I was very lazy in grade school (decades ago), so -- while I have always had a strong aptitude and love of math -- there are some very interesting gaps in the some of the finer details of things I technically should know lol (like I am actually even relearning how to work with Standard form).

I know Larson is far from the consummate text on calculus, but I figured the authors must have had some motivation for drafting answers in the way that they did. Thanks.
 
Hey lordofpi and welcome to the forums.

The second form is typically the form of the equation of an n-dimensional linear object (also an n-dimensional plane) and it has the same form of n . (r - r0) = 0 for an n-dimensional vectors n, r, and r0 (all have to be the same size, but that size is variable).

In a linear context, this can be useful depending on what you are trying to do.
 
Thanks chiro for the additional info. And thank you: this place seems to pickup where Usenet left off all those years ago (plus Usenet never had \LaTeX!). I am very excited to be able to participate in the ongoing conversations of so many sharp minds.
 

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