"General Relativity" by Wald -- question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the suitability of Wald's "General Relativity" for self-taught students, particularly regarding the mathematical prerequisites and alternative introductory texts. Participants share their experiences and recommendations for learning general relativity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire to read Wald's book but questions whether additional mathematical knowledge is necessary beyond tensor calculus.
  • Another participant suggests that studying Wald directly is feasible, as it includes necessary advanced differential geometry within the context of general relativity.
  • A participant acknowledges feeling intimidated by the notation in Wald, particularly the Kronecker delta.
  • One participant critiques Wald as not being suitable for beginners and recommends seeking alternative introductory texts.
  • Several participants recommend other books, including Carroll, Zee, and Landau/Lifshitz, highlighting their clarity and suitability for those new to the subject.
  • Another participant appreciates Landau/Lifshitz for its focus on the physics of general relativity while using familiar notation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the suitability of Wald for beginners, with some participants recommending it while others advise against it in favor of alternative texts.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with mathematical concepts and notation, indicating potential gaps in foundational knowledge that may affect their understanding of Wald.

Who May Find This Useful

Students self-teaching general relativity, educators seeking alternative resources, and individuals interested in the mathematical foundations of physics.

Felix Quintana
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I desire to read General relativity by Wald. I am a student who is self teaching, and I know tensor calculus by Pavel grinfield's introduction to tensor analysis and calculus of moving objects. The book states things from advanced calculus. Do I have more math to learn before hand?
 
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Well, I like the analogy that a straight line (or geodesic :oldbiggrin:) is the shortest path between 2 points. Don't take a detour if you don't have to.

So just try going directly to what you want: i.e., studying Wald. That book (as with many other GR texts) teaches a reasonable amount of the more advanced differential geometry, etc. This is good, since it happens within the GR learning context.

If you get stuck anywhere in Wald, there's plenty of people here on PF who can help you.
 
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Thanks, I am not far off in the book, and I recognize tensor calculus just shown to me in a different notation, and more complicated way i.e Kronecker delta. It's intimidating.
 
It's called index-free notation. To be honest, I wouldn't recommend Wald for an introduction.
 
Oh, well what book would you recommend as an introduction? If you don't mind
 
I used Carroll, which is excellent. Zee's intro is also great and fun to read.
 
I love Landau/Lifshitz vol. 2. It's using the Ricci calculus (i.e., all the index gymnastics) and just provides what's really needed to concentrate on the physics of GR.
 
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This book is amazing...Landau/Lifshitz vol 2 explains everything so clearly using the notation I'm familiar with
 

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