General solution to PDEs-arbitrary constants

In summary, the conversation discusses the general solution for the first order partial differential equation ∂u/∂x + ∂u/∂y = 0, which is u(x,y) = f(x-y). The conversation also explores the differences between general solutions for first and second order PDEs, where first order PDEs have one arbitrary function in the general solution and second order PDEs have two arbitrary functions. The conversation also discusses the general solution for the second order differential equation ∂^2u/∂x^2 = ∂^2u/∂y^2, which is F(x-y) + G(x+y), where F and G can be any twice differentiable functions.
  • #1
kingwinner
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Homework Statement


Claim:
For the partial differential equation ∂u/∂x + ∂u/∂y = 0, the general solution is u(x,y) = f(x-y)

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I remember that the number of arbitrary constants in the general solution should be the same as the order of the differential equation. For example, for 1st order ODEs, there should be one arbitrary constant in the general solution; for 2nd order ODEs, there should be two arbitrary constants in the general solution.

In this case, the order of the differential equation is one, so it should have one arbitrary constant in the general solution, right? However, the above claims that u(x,y) = f(x-y) is the general solution. I am puzzled...Where is the arbitrary constant?

Thanks for any help!:smile:
 
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  • #2
In PDEs you don't have arbitrary constants... you can actually have arbitrary functions, as is the case in this example.
 
  • #3
nicksauce said:
In PDEs you don't have arbitrary constants... you can actually have arbitrary functions, as is the case in this example.

Then for PDEs, is there any general difference between the general solutions to, say, 1st and 2nd order PDEs?

Also, they have f(x-y), which is a function of x-y, is this allowed for general solutions to 1st order PDEs? I've seen arbitrary functions like k(x), c(y) for general solutions to 1st order PDEs, but not something like f(x-y).
 
  • #4
kingwinner said:
Then for PDEs, is there any general difference between the general solutions to, say, 1st and 2nd order PDEs?

Also, they have f(x-y), which is a function of x-y, is this allowed for general solutions to 1st order PDEs? I've seen arbitrary functions like k(x), c(y) for general solutions to 1st order PDEs, but not something like f(x-y).
Yes, there are enormous differences between first and second order partial differential equations just as there are for ordinary differential equations!

If u(x,y)= f(x- y) where f is any differentiable function of one variable, then, by the chain rule, taking z= x- y,
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}= \frac{df}{dz}\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}= f' (1)= f'[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= \frac{df}{dz}\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}= f' (-1)= -f'[/tex]
so that
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= 0[/tex]
no matter what f is.

The general solution for the second order differential equation
[tex]\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2}= \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial y^2}[/tex]
is F(x-y)+ G(x+y) where F and G can be any twice differentiable functions.
 
  • #5
HallsofIvy said:
Yes, there are enormous differences between first and second order partial differential equations just as there are for ordinary differential equations!

If u(x,y)= f(x- y) where f is any differentiable function of one variable, then, by the chain rule, taking z= x- y,
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}= \frac{df}{dz}\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}= f' (1)= f'[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= \frac{df}{dz}\frac{\partial z}{\partial y}= f' (-1)= -f'[/tex]
so that
[tex]\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}+ \frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= 0[/tex]
no matter what f is.
Is it correct to write the following? (I am asking this because you somehow didn't write the (x-y) part after the f ', you just wrote f ' and I am not sure why)
∂u/∂x = f '(x-y) (1)
∂u/∂y = f '(x-y) (-1)

In other words, if we let z=x-y, is it correct to write df/dz=f '(x-y) ?


The general solution for the second order differential equation
[tex]\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x^2}= \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial y^2}[/tex]
is F(x-y)+ G(x+y) where F and G can be any twice differentiable functions.
So first order PDEs have ONE arbitrary function (instead of one arbitrary constant) in the general solution, and second order PDEs have TWO arbitrary functions (instead of two arbitrary constants) in the general solution, is this the general rule?

Thanks for your help!
 
  • #6
Is there a general pattern that typifies the general solutions to first order PDEs?
 

1. What is a general solution to a PDE?

A general solution to a PDE (partial differential equation) is a solution that includes all possible solutions to the equation. It contains arbitrary constants that can be assigned specific values to obtain a particular solution.

2. How is a general solution to a PDE different from a particular solution?

A particular solution to a PDE is a specific solution that satisfies the given boundary conditions and initial conditions, while a general solution contains all possible solutions and includes arbitrary constants.

3. Why are arbitrary constants needed in a general solution to a PDE?

Arbitrary constants are necessary in a general solution to a PDE because they represent the initial conditions and boundary conditions that are not specified in the equation. These constants allow for the specific determination of a particular solution.

4. How can the arbitrary constants in a general solution be determined?

The arbitrary constants in a general solution to a PDE can be determined by applying the boundary conditions and initial conditions of the specific problem. This process will result in a set of equations that can be solved to find the values of the constants.

5. Can a general solution to a PDE be unique?

No, a general solution to a PDE is not unique because it contains arbitrary constants that can take on any value. Only when these constants are assigned specific values will a unique particular solution be obtained.

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