General topology: Prove a Set is Open

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The discussion revolves around proving whether the set A = {x ∈ ℝ² : 1 < x² + y² < 2} is open, closed, or neither. Participants explore the geometric interpretation and use the properties of open balls and closed sets to establish that A is indeed open. They clarify that since A can be expressed as the intersection of two open sets, it follows that A is open by definition. The conversation also highlights the importance of understanding the basis of the topology being used, specifically focusing on open balls. Ultimately, the proof hinges on demonstrating that every point in A has a neighborhood contained within A.
  • #31
PeroK said:
It's just the triangle inequality again:

##d(0, a) \le d(0, z) + d(z, a)##
##d(0, a) \le d(0, z) + d(z, a)## ⇔ ## d(0, z) ≥ d(0, a)-d(z, a) ##
 
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  • #32
lep11 said:
##d(0, a) \le d(0, z) + d(z, a)## ⇔ ## d(0, z) ≥ d(0, a)-d(z, a) ##

That's true,but what about using the inequalities you know for ##d(0, a)## and ##d(z, a)##?
 
  • #33
## d(0, z) ≥ d(0, a)-d(z,a) >d(0,a)>1 ##
 
  • #34
lep11 said:
## d(0, z) ≥ d(0, a)-d(z,a) > d(0,a)>1 ##

That middle equality cannot be correct. ##d(0, a)-d(z,a) \le d(0,a)## surely?
 
  • #35
PeroK said:
That middle equality cannot be correct. ##d(0, a)-d(z,a) \le d(0,a)## surely?
What's wrong?
 
  • #36
lep11 said:
What's wrong?

Come on! If you take a positive number away what you have gets smaller.
 
  • #37
PeroK said:
Come on! If you take a positive number away what you have gets smaller.
Okay, true.

I might just give up. I am not smart enough to study crap like this.
 
  • #38
lep11 said:
Okay, true.

I might just give up. I am not smart enough to study crap like this.
I took a break and tried again.

##d(0,z)≥d(0,x)-d(x,z)≥r+1-d(x,z)>r+1-r=1##
 
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Thank You PeroK!
 

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