Generating a vector space via a T-cyclic subspace

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The discussion centers on the existence of a vector in a finite-dimensional vector space V that can generate the entire space through a T-cyclic subspace via a linear operator T. It is established that while this is not generally true (e.g., with the zero transformation), specific examples, such as a 2-dimensional space with T defined as a swap matrix, demonstrate that it is possible to generate the entire space. The conversation explores the conditions under which a linear operator T can be cyclic of degree n, emphasizing the importance of selecting T such that T^n = T while ensuring T^m ≠ T for 1 < m < n. It concludes that every n-dimensional vector space can indeed have a linear operator that is cyclic of degree n, encouraging exploration of similar examples in higher dimensions. The discussion highlights the interplay between linear operators and vector spaces in generating cyclic subspaces.
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I've been thinking about a problem I made up. The solution may be trivial or very difficult as I have not given too much thought to it, but I can't think of an answer of the top of my head.

Let ## T:V → V ## be a linear operator on a finite-dimensional vector space ##V##. Does there exist a vector ## v \in V ## for which the T-cyclic subspace of ##V## generated by ##v## is ##V##? This is certainly not true in general, since if ##T## is the zero transformation and ##V## has dimension greater than 1 then no T-cyclic subspace will equal ##V##.

But what about for an arbitrary linear map?

BiP
 
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Let's just look at a 2-dim space. Let T = <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 1 &amp; 0\\<br /> <br /> \end{pmatrix}<br />
and v = (1,0). Then Tv = (0,1). Clearly v and Tv are a basis for the entire space.
 
brmath said:
Let's just look at a 2-dim space. Let T = <br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 1 &amp; 0\\<br /> <br /> \end{pmatrix}<br />
and v = (1,0). Then Tv = (0,1). Clearly v and Tv are a basis for the entire space.

How can we generalize this for an arbitrary linear map?

BiP
 
Assuming we are in a finite dimensional vector space, of dimension n, you need to pick a T such that T^n= T but if 1 < m < n T^m \neq T.
If you do have T^m = T for 1 < m < n then the T-cyclic subspace has only dimension m, because that is all the independent vectors you can generate with powers of T.

Now there is bound to be some specific vector v such that T^mv = Tv even though T^m \neq T. That vector is in fact any eigenvector of T^m - T. You can't generate the entire space V using that kind of vector v. However, there is bound to be a vector u which is not an eigenvector of T^m - T for any 1 < m < n. You can use u to generate the entire space.

Does every n dimensional vector space have a linear operator which is cyclic of degree n? Yes. Start with my 2 dimensional example and see if you can find something similar in 3 dimensions. Once you get that far, you'll see how to generate such a T in n dimensions.
 
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