Generating Circular Polarization

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the generation of circular polarization using dipole antennas, specifically examining the mathematical representation of the electric field produced by two antennas oriented 90 degrees apart. Participants explore the implications of the equations provided, the role of the variable z, and the concept of handedness in circularly polarized waves.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the configuration of two dipole antennas and presents the equation for the electric field, suggesting that the field is circularly polarized.
  • Another participant clarifies that β is not a phase shift but is related to the wavelength, and explains that z represents the distance from the antenna in the direction of wave propagation.
  • There is a question regarding whether z should be represented as a unit vector and whether the electric field should depend on β instead of z.
  • Responses assert that the electric field is indeed a function of both z and t, maintaining that z is the correct variable to use.
  • Participants discuss the concept that a circularly polarized wave changes handedness upon reflection, with one participant stating that it changes from right-handed to left-handed or vice versa.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the mathematical representation of the electric field and the role of z in the equation. However, there is some disagreement about the interpretation of z as a unit vector and its implications for the electric field's dependence on z versus β.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the implications of the variable z in the context of the electric field and the nature of circular polarization upon reflection. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the interpretation of z as a unit vector.

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Consider two dipole antennas, oriented 90degrees apart [imagine the x-y plane, let "a" be the dipole oriented along the x-axis, and the "b" be the dipole oriented along the y-axis]. If "a" dipole radiates cos(\omega t) and "b" dipole radiates sin(\omega t), the field radiated by the two antennas will be circularly polarized:

\vec{E}(z, t) = E_{0}[cos(\omega t - \beta z)\hat{x} + sin(\omega t - \beta z)\hat{y}] (#1)

Side note: Very often, helical antennas are used to generate a circularly-polarized (CP) wave. The isolation between a left-handed CP wave and a right-handed CP wave can be significant. Also, a CP wave will change handedness upon reflection.

My thoughts:
I understand that E_0 is the magnitude of the sinusoid- and in this case it is circular thus both \hat{x}, \hat{y} have the same amplitudes respectively. And since both sin(\omega t), cos(\omega t) are perpendicular to one another, if one has a phase shift, the other will have the same phase shift \beta.

Relevant questions:
Is my thoughts above reasonable? What I would really like to know is why the electric field is a function of z also. What is the variable z, and how does it influence the electric field?

Also, can someone explain to me what is meant by
Also, a CP wave will change handedness upon reflection?
Thanks,Jeffrey
 
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jeff1evesque said:
My thoughts:
I understand that E_0 is the magnitude of the sinusoid- and in this case it is circular thus both \hat{x}, \hat{y} have the same amplitudes respectively. And since both sin(\omega t), cos(\omega t) are perpendicular to one another, if one has a phase shift, the other will have the same phase shift \beta.

Relevant questions:
Is my thoughts above reasonable? What I would really like to know is why the electric field is a function of z also. What is the variable z, and how does it influence the electric field?
Your thoughts look pretty reasonable, but β is not a phase shift. z is the distance away from the antenna in the direction of the E-M wave's propagation, and β=2π/λ is related to the wavelength λ.

Those equations represent a wave traveling in the +z direction. At any fixed time t, the electric field direction makes a rotating, helical pattern as one moves along the z direction.

I'm not familiar with helical antennas, so I can't comment on them.

Also, can someone explain to me what is meant by

Also, a CP wave will change handedness upon reflection.
The wave changes from right-handed to left-handed (or vice versa) CP if it is reflected.
 
Redbelly98 said:
Your thoughts look pretty reasonable, but β is not a phase shift. z is the distance away from the antenna in the direction of the E-M wave's propagation, and β=2π/λ is related to the wavelength λ.

Shouldn't z be \hat{z} then? So if it becomes the unit vector (since that is the direction of propagation), then the electric field cannot be a function of z, and thus should it be a function of \beta instead- along with t?

Thanks,Jeff
 
No, it is z. The electric field is a function of z and t.
 
Redbelly98 said:
No, it is z. The electric field is a function of z and t.

Ok I almost get it now. I am going to start a new thread, this one is getting long.THanks,JL
 
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