Genetic variations within and between populations

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The discussion centers on genetic variations within and between populations, exploring how these variations can affect the genetic dissimilarity between individuals from the same or different populations. The conversation touches on the implications of genetic polymorphisms and the ability to distinguish populations based on genetic data.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the frequency of genetic dissimilarity between individuals from the same population versus different populations varies based on the number of polymorphisms considered and the populations compared.
  • It is suggested that with a small number of loci, there are reliable genetic markers that can distinguish populations, but within-population variation is generally greater.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the distinction between variation within and between populations, seeking further clarification.
  • A later reply reiterates the idea that while overall genetic variation may complicate population distinction, specific genes may still be unique to certain populations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the concepts of genetic variation within and between populations. There is no consensus on how to clearly articulate these distinctions, indicating ongoing confusion and debate.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of genetic variation and the potential for misunderstanding the relationship between within-population and between-population variation. Specific definitions and assumptions regarding genetic markers and polymorphisms are not fully resolved.

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This paper asserts these two different conclusions:

Thus the answer to the question “How often is a pair of individuals from one population genetically more dissimilar than two individuals chosen from two different populations?” depends on the number of polymorphisms used to define that dissimilarity and the populations being compared. The answer, can be read from Figure 2. Given 10 loci, three distinct populations, and the full spectrum of polymorphisms (Figure 2E), the answer is 0.3, or nearly one-third of the time. With 100 loci, the answer is ∼20% of the time and even using 1000 loci, 10%. However, if genetic similarity is measured over many thousands of loci, the answer becomes “never” when individuals are sampled from geographically separated populations.

The fact that, given enough genetic data, individuals can be correctly assigned to their populations of origin is compatible with the observation that most human genetic variation is found within populations, not between them.

How don't they contradict each other? What exactly is "variation between populations" and "variation within populations"?
 
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There are likely a small number of sites that differ between populations that can be reliably used to distinguish those populations. However, there are a larger number of sites that differ within a population.
 
Ygggdrasil said:
There are likely a small number of sites that differ between populations that can be reliably used to distinguish those populations. However, there are a larger number of sites that differ within a population.

I don't understand, can you explain it in another way?
 
Tosh5457 said:
I don't understand, can you explain it in another way?

Overall variation may be too high to distinguish populations from each other, but that doesn't mean there can't be specific genes that are still unique to their respective populations.
 

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