Geometric Optics- Refraction , reflected ray's

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The problem involves a beam of light transitioning from air into an unknown substance, with specific angles of incidence, reflection, and refraction. Participants are tasked with determining the refracted angle, the index of refraction for the substance, and the critical angle when transitioning back to air.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Snell's law and the relationship between the angles of incidence, reflection, and refraction. There is confusion regarding the angles and the assumptions made about the medium, particularly the mention of water.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered insights into the relationships between the angles and the refractive index, while others express confusion about the setup and calculations. Multiple interpretations of the angles and their relationships are being explored, and guidance has been provided to clarify the geometric relationships involved.

Contextual Notes

There is uncertainty regarding the choice of the unknown substance, with one participant mistakenly assuming it to be water. The discussion also reflects a need for clarity on the definitions and references of angles in relation to the normal.

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Homework Statement



A beam of light in air makes an incident angle with the normal at 53 with an unknown substance. Part of the light is relected and part is refracted into the substance. The reflected ray and the refracted ray make an angle of 90 degrees.

a) What is the refracted angle?
b) what is the index of refraction for the substance?
c) the critical angle if the ray goes from the unknown substance into air?


Homework Equations


I think we use , Snells law nsin() = nsing () ; where () = Angle



The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Im confused, and not sure. But Incident angle is =53 degrees, refracted angle i think is =90degrees. i know that, , sin (theta).critical = n2/n1.

Water is 1.33
air is 1.0003

Not sure on where to start.
 
The angle of reflection is equal to the angle of incidence. The problem statement states that the angle between the reflected and refracted rays is 90 degrees. That should be enough to solve it from there.
 
N2 and THeta 2, s (1.003)water sin 90?

ANd N.1 sing theta1, = N1 sin ().1 = (1)sin THeta2, solve for n1??

i need the steps I am confused, trying to draw it out, but i get angle of incident
comng in, perpendicular . and angle of refraction on the right side. Both having
angles of 90 degrees.

Now to find criticle angle, its n2/n1 correct?
 
Why are you assuming water?
 
I guess i assumed, because
i was up at 2:30am, and was
confused :), sorry
 
Yeah, the question seems to be asking you to figure out the angles of reflection and refraction and use these to find the index of refraction (parts (a) and (b)).
 
Here the angle of incidence, i = 53 degree.whenever reflection takes place the angle of reflection will be equal to the angle of incidence.then the angle of reflection = 53 degree.
The angle between the reflected and the refracted ray = 90 degree
Therefore the angle between the refracted ray and the normal =the angle of refraction ,r = 180 - (53+90) = 180 -143 =37 degree.
A) = 37 degree.

B) Refractive index = sin i/sin r = sin 53/ sin 37 = 1.326
C) refractive index = 1/sin C ,where C is the critical angle or sin C =1/refractive index = 1/1.326 = 1/1.326 =0.7543
or C = sin inverse 0.7543 =48 degree 57 minutes.

does this make sense or this:

a)
Angle of refraction = 90° - 53° = 47°

b)
Refractive index
= sin(angle of incidence) / sin(angle of refraction)
= sin 53° / sin 47°
= 1.092.

c)
Critical angle
= sinֿ¹ (1 / 1.092)
= 66.3°.
 
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Pay attention to how we reference the angles for incidence, reflection, and refraction in terms of the normals. The angles are always right angles or acute, as shown in the reflection and refration sections of Wikipedia's Gemetrical Optics page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometrical_optics . So draw a diagram of the problem, the angle between the refracted and reflected rays is 90 degrees. Use this to figure out the relationship of the refracted ray to calculated it's angle with the normal inside the second medium.
 

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