Internal reflection equation question

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the internal reflection equation in the context of light refraction through multiple media, specifically focusing on the transition from air to glass and then to a coating medium. Participants explore the reasoning behind subtracting 90° from the angle of incidence to determine the refraction angle in the coating medium.

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  • Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the scenario involving three media and the need to find the refraction angle in the coating medium, introducing the equation nglasssin(90°−x)=ncoatingsin(90°).
  • Another participant points out that without the 90° shift in the equation, a negative index of refraction would result.
  • A different participant explains that the angles are defined relative to the surface normal, indicating that the angle of incidence is actually 90° minus the angle defined in the diagram.
  • A further contribution emphasizes the importance of using the normal for angle measurements, questioning the practicality of using tangents for aspherical surfaces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to agree on the necessity of using the normal for angle measurements, but there is some debate regarding the implications of the 90° subtraction and its relation to Snell's Law.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the underlying assumptions about angle definitions and their implications for the application of Snell's Law, particularly in complex geometries.

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As you can see we have 3 media here. Only focus on the glass and coating medium. Assume an incident ray comes from the air medium and is refracted inside the glass and then it is refracted again in the coating medium. The x angle is the angle inside the glass medium. In this case, if the incident ray,from the air, enters the glass it will create a refracted ray with an angle. This is the x angle. Now, let's say I want the refraction angle of the coating medium to be 90°. Why do I have to subtract 90° from the x angle to achieve this?
nglasssin(90°−x)=ncoatingsin(90°)

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Look at your equation, without the 90^\circ shift, you'll have a negative answer, i.e. a negative index of refraction.
 
It's because of the way the angles are defined. Angle of incidence and angle of refraction are the angles relative to the surface normal. That picture defines ##\theta## as relative to the horizontal, which is tangent to the surface. The angle of incidence is ##90^\circ - \theta##.
 
GatoGordo said:
Summary:: Why do we subtract 90° from the incident angle when we want to find at which angle causes a refraction of 90° in a second medium?

Why do I have to subtract 90°
Your angle θ in the diagram needs to be modified to be the angle between the ray and the Normal to the surface (i.e. 90-θ ). It's the angle from the normal of the surface that is what's in the standard version of Snell's Law, which gives you the Critical Angle.
 
A thought:
Why do we use the normal and not the angle from the tangent?
There is only one Normal but there are any number of possible tangents for aspherical surfaces - so which tangent could you use? The Normal comes to the rescue.
 

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