Geometric Optics: Solving for Position & Nature of Image

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The problem involves geometric optics, specifically the formation of images by convex lenses. The original poster presents a scenario where an object is placed in front of a convex lens, and they seek to determine the position and nature of the image formed, as well as the characteristics of a second lens placed behind the first.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the lens formula to find the image position and nature, while also calculating the focal length of a second lens based on its magnifying power. Some participants question the assumptions regarding the magnifying power and its relationship to the focal length, suggesting a need to consider the effective focal length of the two lenses with their separation accounted for.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between magnifying power and focal length, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of the original poster's experience level, indicating they may be unfamiliar with certain formulas, which could affect their understanding of the problem. Additionally, the context of the magnifying power and its implications for the second lens is under discussion.

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Homework Statement


An object is placed 400 mm in front of a convex lens of focal length 80 mm. Find the position of the image formed. State the nature of this image.

A second convex lens of magnifying power X8 is placed 125 mm behind the first convex lens.
What is the focal length of this lens?
Find the position of the final image formed and state its nature.



The Attempt at a Solution



So the first part is pretty easy,

\frac{1}{U} + \frac{1}{V} = \frac{1}{F}

\frac{1}{V} = \frac{1}{80} - \frac{1}{400}

V = 100 mm


Next part is where I'm unsure. Here's my attempt,

m = \frac{-V}{U}

8 = \frac{-V}{U}

8 = \frac{-V}{25}

V = -200mm

\frac{1}{U} + \frac{1}{V} = \frac{1}{F}

\frac{1}{F} = \frac{1}{25} - \frac{1}{200}

F = 28.6 mm

Is this the correct method?

Thanks.
 
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The second lens magnifying power is defined (most of the time) by 1/4 diopters + 1. It is not a function of where the object is placed. So 8 = 1/4 d + 1, solve for d, then f = 1/d in meters. But now you have 2 lenses with a distance between them so your job now is to come up with the effective focal length of the two lenses with their separation accounted for.
 
Hmm, that's strange. What if I put this into context and said I was a freshman and had never encountered this formula before?
 
Darth Frodo said:
Hmm, that's strange. What if I put this into context and said I was a freshman and had never encountered this formula before?

If it's any consolation, I had to look up the meaning of a " ... lens with magnification power of x" also. And I got my degree in 1962!

And it's always possible the question had a different intent, like maybe the magnification of the object was 8 after inserting the second lens ...
 

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