Geometric Series: 2/3^k and -2/10^k

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The discussion centers around the convergence of a series involving geometric terms, specifically the series represented by the expression (infinity)sigma(k = 0) [2(2/6)^k + (-2/10)^k]. Participants explore the nature of geometric series and the conditions for convergence.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss splitting the series into two separate geometric series and analyze their convergence. There is a question regarding the divergence of the first series, leading to a clarification about the ratio of convergence. The original poster expresses uncertainty about how to proceed after determining convergence.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the convergence of the series and the conditions under which the series can be split. There is an ongoing exploration of the requirements for absolute convergence, with references to various tests and methods that could be employed.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to justify the splitting of the series and the importance of absolute convergence, indicating that there may be complexities involved in the convergence of alternating series.

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Homework Statement


(infinity)sigma(k = 0) [2(2/6)^k + (-2/10)^k)


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The Attempt at a Solution


I split these up into two geometric series

(infinity)sigma(k = 0) [2(1/3)^k]
2 / (1 - 1/3)
r = 3

This diverges.

(infinity)sigma(k = 0) (-1/5)^k
1 / (1 + 1/5)
r = 5/6

This converges.

Now, I'm not sure what to do? If it does converge, I need to find its sum o_O.
 
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The first series doesn't diverge. What makes you think it does?
 
Oh oops! I see, the |r| value is the ratio. Not the number you get after. The number you get after is what the series converges to?

So 3 + 5/6 = 18 / 6 + 5 /6 --> 23 / 6

Would that be correct?
 
Yea. Although to be more rigorous, you need to show those two series converge absolutely to justify splitting the sum. This is only a problem for the second one, which is an alternating series, but taking the absolute value of each series gives another converging series, so you're ok.

This might sound like a technicality, and it is, but there are examples where your method would give a wrong answer. For example, it wouldn't work on the series:

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty ((-1)^n+(-1)^{n+1})[/tex]

There are also examples where it would give you a finite answer, but which would be wrong. These are rare, and I can't think of one off hand, but I'll post one if I do.
 
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So to prove that, I would use the ratio test to show absolute convergence? Absolute convergence was very confusing reading from the textbook.

I forgot there were other ways to show absolute convergence. Like using harmonic, or comparison or something.
 
A series [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] converges absolutely iff [itex]\sum |a_n|[/itex] converges. If the series is already positive, like the first one, you're done. Since the second isn't, you need to show that by taking the absolute value, which just amounts to changing -1/5 to 1/5, you still get a series that converges.
 

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